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Forums - Gaming - Should devs make changes post release in single player games? (Poll)

 

Should Sony/MS allow reverting to an earlier version?

Yes 15 83.33%
 
No 1 5.56%
 
I don't know 2 11.11%
 
Total:18

I can't believe it. Death Steanding 2 also, they changed the materials needed for leveling up Ziplines to get more distance from 400 metals to n9w chemicals and Aloys and reverted my ziplines to level 1 essentially breaking large parts of my zipline network and many hours of gameplay.

This nonsense should be illegal, It would not be fair to release a film and in the middle of it an update occurs that alters scenes.



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Poll limited to MS and Sony? More publishers you know. What they should allow is the selection of reverting to older versions of digital games. Fixing bugs, sure, makes sense but anything beyond that should be optional or ability to revert.

My gripe is Cyberpunk 2077. Update 2.0 changed the leveling but because I own the digital version (got for £20 years ago), I not longer have access to that leveling which I preferred over the updates/my recent play. It also meant that going back to my original characters and having all their points refunded and my armour messed up because it was moved to body enhancements just meant I'm less inclined to play said character as it means I have to try and replicate what I originally had on a new system I'm not familiar with.



Hmm, pie.

The Fury said:

Poll limited to MS and Sony? More publishers you know. What they should allow is the selection of reverting to older versions of digital games. Fixing bugs, sure, makes sense but anything beyond that should be optional or ability to revert.

My gripe is Cyberpunk 2077. Update 2.0 changed the leveling but because I own the digital version (got for £20 years ago), I not longer have access to that leveling which I preferred over the updates/my recent play. It also meant that going back to my original characters and having all their points refunded and my armour messed up because it was moved to body enhancements just meant I'm less inclined to play said character as it means I have to try and replicate what I originally had on a new system I'm not familiar with.

Nah, Sony, MS, Nintendo and Valve. They hold the power for what should be done with games on their platforms. 

And yep, it sucks. CDPR in the past broke saves in TW3 with patches just before the DLC. Not many complained. We need to push back and not accept this nonsense. I regards to CP 2077 do you find 2.0 to be worth the hassle though? I mean, prior the the updates coming close to 2.0 that game was a trash heap on fire. 



LegitHyperbole said:

Nah, Sony, MS, Nintendo and Valve. They hold the power for what should be done with games on their platforms. 

And yep, it sucks. CDPR in the past broke saves in TW3 with patches just before the DLC. Not many complained. We need to push back and not accept this nonsense. I regards to CP 2077 do you find 2.0 to be worth the hassle though? I mean, prior the the updates coming close to 2.0 that game was a trash heap on fire. 

Next gen update when PS5/Xbox version launched fixed most of the game. The progression for weapons, stealth and all that made sense and it also allows you to if you wanted, ignore body mods for the most part or go full into it.

2.0 removed that, made armour tied to body mods (which itself was odd as if you upgrade a mod, newer mods might be worse than old mod you upgraded, so you'd have to save up parts to then buy a worse mod to then upgrade it to be better, rather silly really), it changed things like handguns to a different skill set (yeah, I wasn't stealth character, but handgun perks are now only in stealth), adding the car stuff I never used because car combat is basically non-existent.

I know why people liked the update but for me, it was a miss but eitherway would like the option to go back.



Hmm, pie.

I usually beat a single player game and never play through it again once finished. I don't think a game has ever changed anything significantly that I noticed. I rarely buy games at launch, especially after Cyberpunk so I guess I usually play the updated/patched versions of games.



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Changes I'm wary with, because they hint at there having been wrong with the game originally. In practice, they often improve a game, but like I said: there was probably something wrong with the game originally, so it should probably have released in early access instead if at all. Additions are typically less problematic, although they too have the potential to change a game drastically. Removals I'm generally not OK with, and while I don't play a lot of multiplayer games, my understanding is that e.g. maps get removed all the time these days.

Ideally each platform should allow using older versions too, although there are some more or less valid reasons why that might not be desirable though. Anyway, GOG excels at this, since it lets you choose the version you want to play. I'm not aware of any other major platforms allowing this.



This is an issue and while it's not a fully single player game Destiny 2 is a good example. I have 0 desire to ever touch it again cause of the bs they pulled with that. Whenever it's doable developers should let players go back to earlier versions of single player games. If nothing else going back to the very first public build of a game from years ago and comparing things could be neat. Like I recently played Baldur's Gate 3 and am now curious what version 1.0 back in 2023 was like and same goes for the very first early access version back in 2020.

Last edited by Norion - on 15 July 2025

Norion said:

This is an issue and while it's not a fully single player game Destiny 2 is a good example. I have 0 desire to ever touch it again cause of the bs they pulled with that. Whenever it's doable developers should let players go back to earlier versions for single player games. If nothing else going back to the very first public build of a game from years ago and comparing things could be neat. Like I recently played Baldur's Gate 3 and am now curious what version 1.0 back in 2023 was like and same goes for the very first early access version back in 2020.

Destiny 2 is a different game ecerytime you go back. They have destroyed the on boarding and caused massive confusion for new players. That is indeed the worst case but thankfully it's not a game you'd wanna play seriously solo apart from the crucible. For Larian, it's slightly different, they don't break the game down but build it up after 1.0. I haven't played it yet but probably the worst of it would be broken save files like DOS2 or TW3. 



LegitHyperbole said:
Norion said:

This is an issue and while it's not a fully single player game Destiny 2 is a good example. I have 0 desire to ever touch it again cause of the bs they pulled with that. Whenever it's doable developers should let players go back to earlier versions of single player games. If nothing else going back to the very first public build of a game from years ago and comparing things could be neat. Like I recently played Baldur's Gate 3 and am now curious what version 1.0 back in 2023 was like and same goes for the very first early access version back in 2020.

Destiny 2 is a different game ecerytime you go back. They have destroyed the on boarding and caused massive confusion for new players. That is indeed the worst case but thankfully it's not a game you'd wanna play seriously solo apart from the crucible. For Larian, it's slightly different, they don't break the game down but build it up after 1.0. I haven't played it yet but probably the worst of it would be broken save files like DOS2 or TW3. 

As soon as you're ready for another game you can easily put hundreds of hours into I highly recommend playing it. It's a strong contender for the best game I've ever played and fully lives up to its reputation. Since you're the type that can play something for over 10 hours a day if you get very sucked in then BG3 could become your addiction for over a full month and perhaps even become your game of the generation.

Last edited by Norion - on 15 July 2025

Norion said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Destiny 2 is a different game ecerytime you go back. They have destroyed the on boarding and caused massive confusion for new players. That is indeed the worst case but thankfully it's not a game you'd wanna play seriously solo apart from the crucible. For Larian, it's slightly different, they don't break the game down but build it up after 1.0. I haven't played it yet but probably the worst of it would be broken save files like DOS2 or TW3. 

As soon as you're ready for another game you can easily put hundreds of hours into I highly recommend playing it. It's a strong contender for the best game I've ever played and fully lives up to its reputation. Since you're the type that can play something for over 10 hours a day if you get very sucked in then BG3 could become your addiction for over a full month and perhaps even become your game of the generation.

I mean I haven't finished it. I've made my way to the Goblin camp twice now and I'll need to start fresh a third time. It's just so... daunting of a task, like I know this, Wrath of the Righteous and KCD2 are going to be phenomenal games but I have them just sitting there installed on the SSD and can't get motivated. I'd say two months at least. DOS and DOS 2 were around that and BG3 looks bigger, moves at a slower pace and just loads of checking out all the little details as well as every ounce of dialogue and making sure nothing is being missed or overlooked.