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GoOnKid said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

The license for driving cars is not to protect cars manufacturers, is for protection of civil society. There is no point in such licenses for consoles

1) If the only way for Nintendo to prevent piracy is to do shaddy illegal anti consumers practices, then keep piracy going

2) It's not like the current levels of piracy is making Nintendo to bankrupt anytime soon 

Oof, those are some very weak arguments. Unfortunately, they are used all so often from pirates.

1) Who is the one doing the shady illegal things here, tell me. Are you really trying to put the blame on them?

2) It doesn't hurt them, so it's fine, right? Wrong. It's still illegal. No debate.

And for completions' sake, I'll give the last major argument right away: pirates only pirate games that they own already, of course. They have NOOOOOOO intention of stealing, sir. None at all.

We really don't need to debate that one, do we? In the case of NS2, a console that's not even out yet. There are zero reasons why you should want to pirate a game you already own. If you own it already then why not just play it right away? Why the hassle? I think it's crystal clear that this is even the weakest argument of them all.

Sorry for being very blunt about this. I just can't watch someone weasel their way into tolerating something illegal, in this case theft. Pirates grab every straw they can to justify their bad behaviors and they should be called out for that.

It is Nintendo the one who is doing shaddy illegal things. Brazillian consumer protection and defense programan have send a judicial notification to Nintendo stating their updated contract is abusive  

 https://www.google.com/amp/s/exame.com/invest/minhas-financas/procon-sp-notifica-nintendo-por-clausulas-abusivas-em-novos-termos-de-uso/amp/

The reason is simple, you cannot cancel and "break" consoles customers have already paid for  

Worse part is: "You and Nintendo agree that arbitration will be exclusively individual"

Nintendo new contract state you cannot look for collective or judicial means to solve any issues with Nintendo services, you can only contact Nintendo itself. This shit is shaddy as hell, abusive and a clear violation of consumers rights

Hopefully UE will follow suit. Unlike US they have decent laws and consumer protection 



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IcaroRibeiro said:
GoOnKid said:

Oof, those are some very weak arguments. Unfortunately, they are used all so often from pirates.

1) Who is the one doing the shady illegal things here, tell me. Are you really trying to put the blame on them?

2) It doesn't hurt them, so it's fine, right? Wrong. It's still illegal. No debate.

And for completions' sake, I'll give the last major argument right away: pirates only pirate games that they own already, of course. They have NOOOOOOO intention of stealing, sir. None at all.

We really don't need to debate that one, do we? In the case of NS2, a console that's not even out yet. There are zero reasons why you should want to pirate a game you already own. If you own it already then why not just play it right away? Why the hassle? I think it's crystal clear that this is even the weakest argument of them all.

Sorry for being very blunt about this. I just can't watch someone weasel their way into tolerating something illegal, in this case theft. Pirates grab every straw they can to justify their bad behaviors and they should be called out for that.

It is Nintendo the one who is doing shaddy illegal things. Brazillian consumer protection and defense programan have send a judicial notification to Nintendo stating their updated contract is abusive  

 https://www.google.com/amp/s/exame.com/invest/minhas-financas/procon-sp-notifica-nintendo-por-clausulas-abusivas-em-novos-termos-de-uso/amp/

The reason is simple, you cannot cancel and "break" consoles customers have already paid for  

Worse part is: "You and Nintendo agree that arbitration will be exclusively individual"

Nintendo new contract state you cannot look for collective or judicial means to solve any issues with Nintendo services, you can only contact Nintendo itself. This shit is shaddy as hell, abusive and a clear violation of consumers rights

Hopefully UE will follow suit. Unlike US they have decent laws and consumer protection 

My dear Icaro, you are fighting a battle for your right to steal games. Are you really arguing that stealing is okay because the punishment is much too aggressive? How about not stealing in the first place?



GoOnKid said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

It is Nintendo the one who is doing shaddy illegal things. Brazillian consumer protection and defense programan have send a judicial notification to Nintendo stating their updated contract is abusive  

 https://www.google.com/amp/s/exame.com/invest/minhas-financas/procon-sp-notifica-nintendo-por-clausulas-abusivas-em-novos-termos-de-uso/amp/

The reason is simple, you cannot cancel and "break" consoles customers have already paid for  

Worse part is: "You and Nintendo agree that arbitration will be exclusively individual"

Nintendo new contract state you cannot look for collective or judicial means to solve any issues with Nintendo services, you can only contact Nintendo itself. This shit is shaddy as hell, abusive and a clear violation of consumers rights

Hopefully UE will follow suit. Unlike US they have decent laws and consumer protection 

My dear Icaro, you are fighting a battle for your right to steal games. Are you really arguing that stealing is okay because the punishment is much too aggressive? How about not stealing in the first place?

This is Nintendo over-reaching it's legal powers.

It's not even about piracy.



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Pemalite said:
GoOnKid said:

My dear Icaro, you are fighting a battle for your right to steal games. Are you really arguing that stealing is okay because the punishment is much too aggressive? How about not stealing in the first place?

This is Nintendo over-reaching it's legal powers.

It's not even about piracy.

It is about piracy. The conversation started about piracy and ended up in this legal discussion, which is nothing but a deflection.



GoOnKid said:
Pemalite said:

This is Nintendo over-reaching it's legal powers.

It's not even about piracy.

It is about piracy. The conversation started about piracy and ended up in this legal discussion, which is nothing but a deflection.

you guys are overblowing it, not becasue its sketchy legalise BS, but becasue this kind of agreement is basically *bog standard* in any game storefront, exept steam, when they got caught having it and basically said "my bad" and removed the clause.



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GoOnKid said:

My dear Icaro, you are fighting a battle for your right to steal games. Are you really arguing that stealing is okay because the punishment is much too aggressive? How about not stealing in the first place?

Pirating games is illegal. Nintendo's terms of service is also illegal. Like Icaro said they're being notified by the brazilian consumer rights protection agency. That part of the EULA is different on Europe and UK terms of service. Why is that?

Apart from the whole "we can brick your console if you mod it" there's also a bizarre clause that asks you to give up your rights of suing Nintendo in a court, having a trial by jury or participating in a class action lawsuit against them. This shit is also illegal lmao.

But imo this is all scare tatics. They won't brick anything and people will still mod their consoles and pirate games as usual.