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Using mystery hype and dropping Oblivion out of the blue was...

Genuis 6 54.55%
 
Scummy to other releases 2 18.18%
 
Both 0 0%
 
I'm indifferent 3 27.27%
 
Total:11

No rules on the battle feild these days. Shadow dropping a release like Oblivion and using the mystery and hype to sell it is the shittest thing I've seen in the industry lately. They cut so much copies of Clair Obscur out it likely cost millions of euro for that game, thankfully that title reviewed really well and as soon as people have their heads out of Oblivion this will still get many of those sales back but what would have been had they scheduled Oblivion even a few short months back like with F4 in 2015 and Clair Obscur had time to maneuver around it?

Last edited by LegitHyperbole - on 27 April 2025

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You are only angry because you got duped by them.

Also good job on your third poll option, as if those two opinions combined there were even remotely similar.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

Remasters don't need months of hype to get released, shadow drops are amazing and it is nothing new, MS did it in January with Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 and probably have another one between June-August.

It is also boosting Expedition 33's coverage everybody seems to talk about the Oblivion and Clair Obsur Expedition 33 combo even the devs are congratulating each other 

See Bethesda's twitter feed:

I see gamers rejoice by this luxury because both of the games are also not expensive, you can literally buy them both and it is only 25-30($€) more than one other new retail game. The only game that may have suffered is Days Gone remaster.

Anyway it is a busy period for MS, South of midnight early this month, then Oblivion, Indy and Forza , next week Towerborne, week after Age of Empires and that week after Doom and June already has Tony Hawk 3-4..






RolStoppable said:

You are only angry because you got duped by them.

Also good job on your third poll option, as if those two opinions combined there were even remotely similar.

I'm am still mad by the colour indeed but I've made my peace and will wait for that to wear off and go in with fresh eyes down the road.

You can think it's scummy but also marketing genius however yes, I'm separating both from Indiffernce if that's what you mean. 



Shadow dropping a videogame is the shittiest thing that you've seen in the industry lately? Really? Lmao. I can probably think of a dozen of things worse than shadow dropping a videogame in this industry. I sympathise with some developers but at the same time, I don't think there's anything wrong with shadow dropping from a morality perspective, it's a competition at the end of the day and this is a marketing tactic and in times where marketing budgets are horrifically high, shadow dropping can get around some of that.

I doubt even the developer of Expedition 33 is taking this as seriously as you are. Both titles are doing brilliantly with their performance in players and sales, so clearly the fear about launching them near each other was massively overblown, even by myself, which suggests there was enough of a difference in their fanbase or simply enough of an audience for both. The games don't cease to exist after launch either, not everything has to sell 10m+ on day one, those playing E33 will eventually get around to Oblivion and those playing Oblivion will eventually get around to E33.

Oblivion Remaster has been rumoured to shadow drop for months, its April 21st week was leaked at the start of April so leakers already knew the date for at least almost a month but who is to say that Microsoft didn't tell the E33 team months ago when they were planning on releasing Oblivion Remaster too? Especially since it had a Game Pass deal and featured predominately on Xbox showcases. I think it's not unlikely that E33 team knew about Oblivion's date before the leakers as publishers sometimes communicate this stuff with each other to avoid certain situations like this.

And what if they knew but decided to go ahead anyway? It's risky but there's examples of developers not giving a shit about this even without shadow drops, Respawn famously chose to release Titanfall 2 between Call of Duty and Battlefield despite people blaming EA for it, that backfired but it didn't stop other developers from never doing it again, Take-Two released The Outer Worlds literally on the same day as Call of Duty and it worked out good for The Outer Worlds. There's simply going to be times when games launch on top of each other. We also don't know what Microsoft paid for E33 on Game Pass and any "lost copies" of those interested in E33 but now busy with Oblivion will only be temporary.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 27 April 2025

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konnichiwa said:

Remasters don't need months of hype to get released, shadow drops are amazing and it is nothing new, MS did it in January with Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 and probably have another one between June-August.

It is also boosting Expedition 33's coverage everybody seems to talk about the Oblivion and Clair Obsur Expedition 33 combo even the devs are congratulating each other 

See Bethesda's twitter feed:

I see gamers rejoice by this luxury because both of the games are also not expensive, you can literally buy them both and it is only 25-30($€) more than one other new retail game. The only game that may have suffered is Days Gone remaster.

Anyway it is a busy period for MS, South of midnight early this month, then Oblivion, Indy and Forza , next week Towerborne, week after Age of Empires and that week after Doom and June already has Tony Hawk 3-4..

Oh, I didn't think of it this way.... it still took many of those sales for a fresh IP that had such a good chance but yeah, I suppose this really is a win for the fight against 70 euro...oh wait fuck, I mean 80 euro games.