You weren't piled on, you are just acting like a victim because you don't want to be the villian. It's ok, atleast you made a prediction (WiiU 2.0). Now what we usually see from posters like you, is we see them make a prediction today and flatout lie about it later (trust me I have a history of calling out and directly quoting these type of posters), you are going to stick by this prediction right? Or will someone ask you in the future of what you initially predicted and you flatout lie/change your prediction?

Edit: Just to be clear, you can change your prediction. The issue is when posters are not honest to others about their initial prediction because they fear being labeled by others. That doesn't make it OK to lie.

I never lie and always take the L if the predictions are wrong. Again, I'll be happy if I'm wrong. I want to be very wrong and have this thing climb the graph super imposed on top of Switch figures. It just looks so far from likely, I'd put money on it. 35-50 million tops unless they revert back to cheaper games, have a Nintendo seal of approval on third party games that they are on the carts, significantly cut the console price and don't increase it cause of Tarrifs and of course, make sure their first party is of such high quality and high scores to gain people's interest even at these prices during what looks to be a massive global economic down turn. Super Mario Kart will get a great attach rate but not close enough to come anywhere near MK8, 25 million tops. 

I agree it's not bait and atleast you made a prediction. Just be sure to stick to it if anyone ask about your initial prediction no matter the reason because integrity goes a long way.

That's good to hear (the never lying part). I personally think between 120 to 130 million unless the tariffs issue shows up again because that is pretty much out of Nintendo's or any business hands. I think there will be more variance in pricing than people think along with retail/digital deals. I don't think the largest franchises have much issue in justifying the price hikes and the richer will just get richer, while the smaller franchises take the hit for trying to go up in price. Don't think the issues with the games being game key cards are big besides the internet bubble because digital is pretty dominant and the world has become accustomed to a digital world. All in all, I don't think prices will do as much damage as you think, selling more than Switch was always unlikely no matter the price. PS2 and DS are the only ones above Switch for a reason despite several other platforms from the past. 

You don't get a sense that people are legit not able to afford this and things will only get worse economically and the only way they are keep the price down in the US is they're eating the cost and have stock there and the price increase will come after release. After seeing Nintendo youtubers pivoting away from glazing Nintendo cause their audience is so mad about pricing, and key carts and what not. Idk, people have already started to flock to FTP games and older games with emulation. 

I don't because this isn't a product that you can't just take time to save up for. This isn't a home or car, this is a product that will have a 7 to 8 year life span, giving consumers plenty of time to save if needed. Of course their will be consumers turned away but there will also be consumers turned towards the product. Nintendo will continue to deliver games along with 3rd parties to push adoption of the product. As for online hate, those are youtubers whom job are to get clicks because thats what they do for a living. Being honest or dishonest is irrelevant to them because their income/livelyhood is more important than integrity. 

PS5 has similar pricing and has stuck with PS4 launch aligned despite the pricing and could even be argued it wouldn't be behind if it wasn't for Covid stopping it's production. It's pricing has hindered it to a degree likely keeping it from catching PS2/Switch but I do think it has a shot at PS4. I see no reason to believe PS5 can sell at that price but Switch 2 can't. The PS5 is also more relieant on Europe than Nintendo. The US and Japan will carry Switcg 2 enough to reach the heights of PS5.

Edit: I mean honestly, you haven't really posted anything that sounds convincing to me.

Pricing on the console is bad despite we all seeing the cheapest next gen platform (Xbox series S) getting curbstomped by PS5, Xbox series X, and Switch Oled. All were more expensive and smoked the cheapest next gen console. 

Pricing on software is bad despite only one game cost $80 when you can get it in a widely available bundle and Mario being one of the larger franchises on the planet ie it's value will be perceived differently than smaller franchises. GTA will get this same benefit of doubt. The other $80 games are Switch games that have already sold and include dlc, so most will upgrade pack.

Pricing on accessories? Switch 2 allows for 3rd party USB C cameras and Switch joycons and Switch pro controller can be used on Switch 2 games. No need to purchase Nintendo camera or Switch 2 pro controller. 

NSO is the cheapest of the others and now is quite comparable to the other services.

My point is that people have ignored so much because its not about honesty, it's about clicks.

Well gamers are addicts and an addict always finds the money. I suppose the games will take the biggest hit as people buy big into some and leave others by the wayside, I believe this is already happening and clear to see with failure like Concord, Dragon Age and Outlaws. People are justifying nonsense reasons to be in denial that they don't wanna spend the money on the game instead they look for a reason the game is bad. There will be big winners and big loosers as is playing out the past year or two on PS5 and steam. 

Why don't you elaborate on that? Whats a mobile quality game? Give some examples of those games that are compared to those developed by Nintendo. I am looking foward to it

@160rmf I didn't entertain that portion because I'm not going to argue with someone over their opinions. However, when posters then try to validate their opinions by bringing up other posters or the market, that's when they open the door to criticism. You speak for yourself and sales will speak for others/market. It's nice and all that people have opinions but so does the rest of the world and we speak with our wallets. The market will answer the question about whether it's "overpriced" or "good".

They want the casual crowd they had with the Wii and not Switch. They would rather make a candy crush like game for the money than make Nintendo games, it's even evident in their design now but they actually did try for mobile games. Nintendos wet dream would every IP being a pokemon go game. 

As taste of the crowd they got with the Wii is a dragon they'll never stop chasing now at the detriment to the hard-core fans who even stuck with them during the Wii U. Unfortunately for them, the crowd they are chasing prefer many other luxuries over gaming and their luxuries would be prioritised with gaming way down the list, a fickle crowd too and they've lost the kids too with these prices as parents say "We have a Switch at home" during this economic fuckery, the Switch 2 is far to similar for parents to know the difference with 4k 120 and technical stuff.