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Welcome Tour criticism

Healthy 19 82.61%
 
Opportunistic bashing 4 17.39%
 
Total:23

Nintendo decided to price the Switch 2 Welcome Tour for 990 Yen which is like 7USD. A few users are pretending like this is some abhorrent greed move by Nintendo.

Here is what I want to say about this, and I put a poll to see what the whole community thinks, not a select few who rallied to the article to throw tomatoes at Nintendo.

Points:
- We don’t know what’s in the game.

- Sony is not the dictator of how things must be done in the industry, and have used their own share of greedy tactics over the last 3 decades.

- Nintendo is allowed to charge for a game they developed.

- The article system on vgchartz is broken and allows for abuse by users who will take opportunity of clickbait articles to bash Nintendo or Microsoft and the mod team is not addressing it, rather banning users who are victim of this abuse. I just got banned from the article section of this news.

- During the whole switch 2 reveal, it has often always been the same users bringing in worry and fear and complaints about the littlest things. Criticism is okay, but this is just trying to rain on peoples’ parade. Mods don’t care.

- Are Nintendo fans not allowed to have their safe haven here? Other fanbases get it, especially Sony, why is this lopsided? Is the mod team here Sony-slanted?

Do you guys think we should let such gratuitous criticism go without critique? It is one thing to criticize a company, and another to try and just poke at anything to bring the interest down, do you guys think it’s obvious and are there ways to fight against this abuse?

Link to the article:

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/464356/nintendo-switch-2-welcome-tour-announced-for-switch-2/



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It was very pro consumer for Sony to give Astro's Playroom for free. PS5 users definitely needed something to do after their 5 hours with the Miles Morales DLC ended.

I'll be too busy playing Mario Kart World to worry about this software, but it's good for people who want it and can spend a little extra money.



Wait, its US$7,00?

When I looked up all the comotion about this game, i thought it was $79,99



 

 

We reap what we sow

Shaunodon said:

It was very pro consumer for Sony to give Astro's Playroom for free. PS5 users definitely needed something to do after their 5 hours with the Miles Morales DLC ended.

Hey they worked very hard porting assists from spiderman 1 into spiderman MM and spiderman 2. Something I'm sure people remember when talking about how Totk uses the same map as Botw.



The world belongs to you-Pan America

It’s not setting any terrible precedents like $90 MarioKart, but rather, it’s simply just a very greedy move by Nintendo..so i kinda dont care tbh. If you are somebody who wants that 5min of “Wow!”, then you are free to spend that money. I don’t even tend to enjoy tech demos in the first place, so nothing lost nor gained for me. It’s greedy, sure, but it’s also only $7.



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My guess is Nintendo is being hit internally by tarrifs and needs to find ways to claw back some of the hit they are taking on hardware in the US. I suspect this was initially supposed to be a free pack-in game.



It's not the 90$ rise what makes me the most angry about all this (though it is egregious), it's the fact physical games are getting absolutely gimped. Physical games being much higher price than digital while also being just glorified download links is basically Nintendo making a digital-only console. In comparison to that, the demo being under a paywall is just a bother, though people should absolutely complain about it.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

Darwinianevolution said:

It's not the 90$ rise what makes me the most angry about all this (though it is egregious), it's the fact physical games are getting absolutely gimped. Physical games being much higher price than digital while also being just glorified download links is basically Nintendo making a digital-only console. In comparison to that, the demo being under a paywall is just a bother, though people should absolutely complain about it.

Physical games cost like $20 more on the production side though (in this case physical cartridges, especially newer high speed ones are likely costly). 

You can't expect publishers to just eat a $20 difference in production cost, that's wiping out most of the profit margin for most publishers straight up when selling a physical copy vs a digital one. 

Cartridges especially were never going to work unless they were dirt, dirt, dirt cheap. Like a 5 cent plastic disc is one thing, but a cartridge that even adds like $7-$8 of cost to the package is too much. That's $8 out there, then $10-$12 maybe to the retailer + packaging and shipment costs. 

Nintendo honestly should've just gone digital only and ended the whole charade. 



Soundwave said:
Darwinianevolution said:

It's not the 90$ rise what makes me the most angry about all this (though it is egregious), it's the fact physical games are getting absolutely gimped. Physical games being much higher price than digital while also being just glorified download links is basically Nintendo making a digital-only console. In comparison to that, the demo being under a paywall is just a bother, though people should absolutely complain about it.

Physical games cost like $20 more on the production side though (in this case physical cartridges, especially newer high speed ones are likely costly). 

You can't expect publishers to just eat a $20 difference in production cost, that's wiping out most of the profit margin for most publishers straight up when selling a physical copy vs a digital one. 

Cartridges especially were never going to work unless they were dirt, dirt, dirt cheap. Like a 5 cent plastic disc is one thing, but a cartridge that even adds like $7-$8 of cost to the package is too much. That's $8 out there, then $10-$12 maybe to the retailer + packaging and shipment costs. 

Nintendo honestly should've just gone digital only and ended the whole charade. 

Going all digital would mean, that you can't use your physical Switch 1 games anymore. And for your for digital game collection you would need a huge microSD Express, which are quite expensive.

The cheapest 512-GB µSD Express I can find costs € 150.... the last "normal" microSD card I bought was under € 30:



"Are Nintendo fans not allowed to have their safe haven here? Other fanbases get it, especially Sony, why is this lopsided? Is the mod team here Sony-slanted?"

I think you need a break. This thread and your slew of comments in that article triggered by Nintendo charging for a product to teach you about the console you just spent $450 on...

You've already accused me of being anti-nintendo and "negative of everything shown" when my only criticisms have been around $80 prices and this tour.

Outside of that theres a lot to be positive about with switch 2.