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How Many Units Will the Switch 2 Sell Worldwide in its Lifetime?

Under 75 million (Still pessimistic) 9 13.43%
 
75–100 million (DS to 3DS drop) 7 10.45%
 
100–120 million (PS1 to PS4 level) 28 41.79%
 
120–140 million (Huge success) 12 17.91%
 
140–150 million (Nearly Switch 2.0) 2 2.99%
 
150–165 million (IT PRINTS MONEY!) 5 7.46%
 
165 million+ (1 more than the PS2?) 4 5.97%
 
Total:67

Not sure if it can reach switch/ps1 levels.
But its 100% a 100mill



 

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curl-6 said:
Xxain said:

Here.

We have four lightning in a bottle consoles: PS2 DS Wii (Though potential faltered. It started off as such) and Switch. They all have something in common; A gimmick or novelty that attracted those beyond the gamer crowd. Those 160mill PS2 sales include millions of people who bought because "console that plays my DVDs!?". Here is the thing about these type of consoles; They never work twice. A perfect example is DS -> to 3DS. A large drop off in max sales because all of those gimmick/novelty buyers didn't return for the 3DS because it wasn't a gimmick/novelty anymore.

I think Switch 2 will experience the DS - 3DS sales drop. It is not doing 140+mill again dude. Its has no lightning in bottle buff.

Switch didn't sell 150+ million because it had a "novel gimmick", it sold that much because the hybrid form factor made gaming accessible, convenient and appealing to a huge audience, and Switch 2 has that same form factor.

The successors to the consoles you list didn't fall short because their success couldn't possibly be followed up on, but due to their own specific failings and circumstances, from PS3 being overpriced and falling behind in games early in the 7th gen, to 3DS having to compete with the rise of phone/tablet gaming, to Wii U making basically every mistake imaginable.

As of yet, there's no reason for Switch 2 to sell far less than Switch 1. They haven't made any massive mistakes, nor has the market changed substantially.

Perfect. Gimmick. In this case I am using gimmick in a much more broad term. Gimmick would be ANY selling factor beyond being a games console. PS2 with DVD Player? A gimmick, but a gimmick helped it to reached an audience that it otherwise would have not if not for said gimmick. 

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xl-klaudkil said:

Not sure if it can reach switch/ps1 levels.
But its 100% a 100mill

If it reaches 100 mill, it's already at PS1 levels

My prediction? Not quite the PS2 and definitely not another Wii U failure. I'm thinking less than the Switch, but about a PS4-esque range of 115-120m.

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The floor right now is 3DS numbers. That one had a rough start and 0 western third party support and it still sold 75m lol.

If they make no huge mistakes with software and price the Switch will just fly off the shelves and 100m+ is basically a lock. We'll see.



 

Xxain said:
curl-6 said:

Switch didn't sell 150+ million because it had a "novel gimmick", it sold that much because the hybrid form factor made gaming accessible, convenient and appealing to a huge audience, and Switch 2 has that same form factor.

The successors to the consoles you list didn't fall short because their success couldn't possibly be followed up on, but due to their own specific failings and circumstances, from PS3 being overpriced and falling behind in games early in the 7th gen, to 3DS having to compete with the rise of phone/tablet gaming, to Wii U making basically every mistake imaginable.

As of yet, there's no reason for Switch 2 to sell far less than Switch 1. They haven't made any massive mistakes, nor has the market changed substantially.

Perfect. Gimmick. In this case I am using gimmick in a much more broad term. Gimmick would be ANY selling factor beyond being a games console. PS2 with DVD Player? A gimmick, but a gimmick helped it to reached an audience that it otherwise would have not if not for said gimmick. 

Very very late response.

There was nothing one-off about the hybrid form factor though; the Switch 2 will have that exact same convenience and flexibility. If it only sold because it was novel, then sales would have crashed after a few years once it was no longer new and fresh, yet the Switch's legs have been exceptional.

Currently there's no evidence at all for a DS to 3DS drop.



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curl-6 said:
Xxain said:

Perfect. Gimmick. In this case I am using gimmick in a much more broad term. Gimmick would be ANY selling factor beyond being a games console. PS2 with DVD Player? A gimmick, but a gimmick helped it to reached an audience that it otherwise would have not if not for said gimmick. 

Very very late response.

There was nothing one-off about the hybrid form factor though; the Switch 2 will have that exact same convenience and flexibility. If it only sold because it was novel, then sales would have crashed after a few years once it was no longer new and fresh, yet the Switch's legs have been exceptional.

Currently there's no evidence at all for a DS to 3DS drop.

Did I say DS to 3DS drop?(Honest question). CGI-Qualities estimates are mine as well. I do not believe that NINTENDO is going to capture lightning in a bottle TWICE ... in a row. No other console has ever done that with the same "gimmick". Then we have to think about how many of those people who bought Switch because of the cool factor; Do they still use it? Why would Switch 2 pull these people in? Let's look at PS2 to PS3; We know SONY fucked up but in some sense you could look that 90mill PS3s as "actually" PS fans(loyalist). That lost 70mill are users who were not loyal to PS(went to xbox)or those who just bought PS2 because of DVD or Madden

It takes a very unique set of elements to have a console go over 130mill. 



Xxain said:
curl-6 said:

There was nothing one-off about the hybrid form factor though; the Switch 2 will have that exact same convenience and flexibility. If it only sold because it was novel, then sales would have crashed after a few years once it was no longer new and fresh, yet the Switch's legs have been exceptional.

Currently there's no evidence at all for a DS to 3DS drop.

Did I say DS to 3DS drop?(Honest question). CGI-Qualities estimates are mine as well. I do not believe that NINTENDO is going to capture lightning in a bottle TWICE ... in a row. No other console has ever done that with the same "gimmick". Then we have to think about how many of those people who bought Switch because of the cool factor; Do they still use it? Why would Switch 2 pull these people in? Let's look at PS2 to PS3; We know SONY fucked up but in some sense you could look that 90mill PS3s as "actually" PS fans(loyalist). That lost 70mill are users who were not loyal to PS(went to xbox)or those who just bought PS2 because of DVD or Madden

It takes a very unique set of elements to have a console go over 130mill. 

We know from Nintendo that the large majority of Switch owners are still active users.

In the examples you list like PS2-PS3 or DS-3DS there was always some massive shift that caused sales to drop; so far there is no such shift in the market going from Switch to Switch 2.

It's entirely possible that such a shift does occur, but so far there's nothing.



curl-6 said:
Xxain said:

Did I say DS to 3DS drop?(Honest question). CGI-Qualities estimates are mine as well. I do not believe that NINTENDO is going to capture lightning in a bottle TWICE ... in a row. No other console has ever done that with the same "gimmick". Then we have to think about how many of those people who bought Switch because of the cool factor; Do they still use it? Why would Switch 2 pull these people in? Let's look at PS2 to PS3; We know SONY fucked up but in some sense you could look that 90mill PS3s as "actually" PS fans(loyalist). That lost 70mill are users who were not loyal to PS(went to xbox)or those who just bought PS2 because of DVD or Madden

It takes a very unique set of elements to have a console go over 130mill. 

We know from Nintendo that the large majority of Switch owners are still active users.

In the examples you list like PS2-PS3 or DS-3DS there was always some massive shift that caused sales to drop; so far there is no such shift in the market going from Switch to Switch 2.

It's entirely possible that such a shift does occur, but so far there's nothing.

Here's is one thing that I don't think anybody is considering. Switch also has the edge that unlike traditional home consoles, households tend to have more than one. With Switched rumored to be $400, I highly doubt that families will be repeating that trend especially the economic path that America is headed towards.

Brother. Even if SONY did not fuck up on the PS3 it still would not have reached PS2. Nintendo Wii and XBOX 360 would not doubt would have still taken sales aways. The rise of PC gaming would still have taken away sales. Those things still would have existed with or without. When Switch came out it was the only thing doing what it did. Now we have dozens of these high powered handhelds. Both SONY and MS are hard at work on their own handhelds. Its more than just one major thing. All these little things could add up and instead of Switch 2 at 130mill its not 119mil.



Xxain said:
curl-6 said:

We know from Nintendo that the large majority of Switch owners are still active users.

In the examples you list like PS2-PS3 or DS-3DS there was always some massive shift that caused sales to drop; so far there is no such shift in the market going from Switch to Switch 2.

It's entirely possible that such a shift does occur, but so far there's nothing.

Here's is one thing that I don't think anybody is considering. Switch also has the edge that unlike traditional home consoles, households tend to have more than one. With Switched rumored to be $400, I highly doubt that families will be repeating that trend especially the economic path that America is headed towards.

Brother. Even if SONY did not fuck up on the PS3 it still would not have reached PS2. Nintendo Wii and XBOX 360 would not doubt would have still taken sales aways. The rise of PC gaming would still have taken away sales. Those things still would have existed with or without. When Switch came out it was the only thing doing what it did. Now we have dozens of these high powered handhelds. Both SONY and MS are hard at work on their own handhelds. Its more than just one major thing. All these little things could add up and instead of Switch 2 at 130mill its not 119mil.

Video gaming has proven itself to be remarkably resistant to economic downturns.

If Sony had nailed the PS3, and competition had remained weak, there's no reason PS3 couldn't have sold close to PS2.

And PC handhelds like Steam Deck pose no threat to Switch 2, those are niche products that have sold only a few million over the few years. As for Sony/MS, there's still no confirmation that they'll actually release handheld consoles, and if they do, such devices could just as easily suffer the same fate as the Vita.

All this is speculation at this point though; so far there's no concrete reason for Switch 2 sales to dramatically decline from Switch.



Xxain said:
curl-6 said:

We know from Nintendo that the large majority of Switch owners are still active users.

In the examples you list like PS2-PS3 or DS-3DS there was always some massive shift that caused sales to drop; so far there is no such shift in the market going from Switch to Switch 2.

It's entirely possible that such a shift does occur, but so far there's nothing.

Here's is one thing that I don't think anybody is considering. Switch also has the edge that unlike traditional home consoles, households tend to have more than one. With Switched rumored to be $400, I highly doubt that families will be repeating that trend especially the economic path that America is headed towards.

Brother. Even if SONY did not fuck up on the PS3 it still would not have reached PS2. Nintendo Wii and XBOX 360 would not doubt would have still taken sales aways. The rise of PC gaming would still have taken away sales. Those things still would have existed with or without. When Switch came out it was the only thing doing what it did. Now we have dozens of these high powered handhelds. Both SONY and MS are hard at work on their own handhelds. Its more than just one major thing. All these little things could add up and instead of Switch 2 at 130mill its not 119mil.

The people on this site are seriously underestimating how hard it is to have dedicated games hardware sell over 100m units. They think it's easy because PlayStation has done it three times, but don't understand why or how PlayStation achieved it three times.