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OdinHades said:

True Crime: Streets of LA comes to mind. It was a great game, but everybody was just playing GTA 3 back then.

I don't remember them overlapping, GTA3 is from 2001, Vice City form 2002, True Crime from 2003.

Anyway, very good game (New York City not so much, and then Sleeping Dogs really great).



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HoloDust said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

The first one, Vampire: The Masquerade: Redemption, had it just as bad.

While Bloodlines released during a very busy release window, it's predecessor released at the same time as Diablo II and Deus Ex, two Juggernauts that are fondly remembered today, and Homeworld: Cataclysm and Icewind Dale, which have a very devoted fanbase, plus Age of Empires II and Baldur's Gate II releasing just a month later.

It also certainly didn't help that the season got flooded with Vampire-related games, as Dracula: Resurrection released the same day, plus Vampire Hunter D and Buffy the Vampire Slayer coming out shortly afterwards, with Dracula and Buffy much more well-known to even household names at that time, stealing quite a bit of it's thunder. 

As a result, Redemption is almost forgotten apart from a core fanbase, to the point that most don't even know that Bloodlines wasn't the first one based on the Vampire: The Masquerade license.

If we're completely honest though, Redemption is nowhere as good of a game as Bloodlines.

Depends on what you're looking for. Redemption is more rigid, more linear, and it's rule system got adapted to PC, straying away from the strict points buy system op V:TM.

But story-wise I found it better than Bloodlines, more fleshed-out, and I preferred being in a coterie (even though their AI wasn't anything to write home about) instead of being mostly alone in Bloodlines.

Also, if Redemption hadn't been that good, Bloodlines would never have been greenlit, so there's that.



In case it hasn't already been said: Literally any Horizon game. Zero Dawn released one week prior to BotW. Forbidden West released one week prior to Elden Ring. Call of the Mountain released a couple months prior to TotK (tho i thought it released a bit closer to TotK?? Ig not...). Not to say Horizon has remained "hidden under the shadow of these titans", though it certainly has always been overshadowed at launch by some massive release.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
HoloDust said:

If we're completely honest though, Redemption is nowhere as good of a game as Bloodlines.

Depends on what you're looking for. Redemption is more rigid, more linear, and it's rule system got adapted to PC, straying away from the strict points buy system op V:TM.

But story-wise I found it better than Bloodlines, more fleshed-out, and I preferred being in a coterie (even though their AI wasn't anything to write home about) instead of being mostly alone in Bloodlines.

Also, if Redemption hadn't been that good, Bloodlines would never have been greenlit, so there's that.

I prefer party RPGs over solo ones anytime of day, but I found Redemption's AI to be quite weak, and I guess that bothered me the most - maybe I should give it another chance at some point. I never played TTRPG version of VtM (not my kind of TTRPG), though I've read core rules (a friend of mine was playing it back in days), but it was so long it's very hazy. Bloodlines is not quite non-linear affair, but it really gives you a lot of choices at how to play and, from memory, translated fairly well TTRPG rules into an action-RPG.



Scarface and Godfather, two fantastic launch window games on the Wii that got overshadowed by the surge of games coming out for the Wii at the time. They were also hurt by the fact that there was this general bias toward ports on Wii being inferior, despite these two games being superior. It took a little while for this bias to shake away - but too late for these two gems as they weren’t reprinted once word of mouth kicked in.

On the flip side, Ace Attorney was saved from the same fate when word of mouth convinced Capcom for a reprint and expansion of the franchise. Can you imagine if they gave up on ports after the first game?

Anyway, it sucks these brilliant IR third person shooters (Godfather and Scarface) fell through the grate.



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WarioWare Smooth Moves - got overshadowed by Wii Sports and other similar games. This one was brilliant! One of the best party games I ever played. But I think once Just Dance hit, well, most girls wanted to play that, and it ended any aspirations WarioWare might have had.
(Note: in my experience, if a party game is to work, girls have to be into it)

Granted, WarioWare was still a minor hit. But I think it should have been 10 times bigger.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 06 January 2025

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Space Station Silicon Valley got delayed and eventually came out around the same time as Ocarina of Time in 1998, so got lost in the hype of that game a bit as Nintendo were (understandably) pushing that.



Mad Max (2015) was pretty good, definitely better than i expected. It released the same day as MGSV so it got completely overshadowed.



I can think of some. Syphon Filter 3, Muppet Race Mania and The Italian Job for PS1. Paper Mario for N64. Pretty much all of the Sega Saturn titles lol



Jumpin said:

Scarface and Godfather, two fantastic launch window games on the Wii that got overshadowed by the surge of games coming out for the Wii at the time. They were also hurt by the fact that there was this general bias toward ports on Wii being inferior, despite these two games being superior. It took a little while for this bias to shake away - but too late for these two gems as they weren’t reprinted once word of mouth kicked in.

On the flip side, Ace Attorney was saved from the same fate when word of mouth convinced Capcom for a reprint and expansion of the franchise. Can you imagine if they gave up on ports after the first game?

Anyway, it sucks these brilliant IR third person shooters (Godfather and Scarface) fell through the grate.

Yeah there were a lot of smaller third party Wii games that got overshadowed this way by both Nintendo's first party games and the bigger AAA HD blockbusters; Muramasa, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, Dead Space Extraction, House of the Dead Overkill, Deadly Creatures, Zack & Wiki, Sky Crawlers, Little King's Story, etc.