Runa216 said:
The hypocritical projection here genuinely makes it hard to even consider responding. I don't even know what to say when your strongest 'argument' is "All those things you called me out for...you do, actually!" It's the modern equivalent of "I know you are but what am I?" I have read plenty of arguments, debates, points, and opinions and as a person who actually cares about people who don't look, feel, or act like me and can empathize with people who don't live my experience (I'm a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, white male that passes for cis and hetero), I've found almost none of them to have any merit. As A result I find it hard to argue most points because they're so far removed from reality or so AGGRESSIVELY ignorant of the facts and context. Most of the points, not just here but all over the internet, are so astoundingly foolish and devoid of any logic or backing that there's no room to reach some sort of common ground. For example, did you know some people are STILL Saying Imane Khalief (I don't know if that's how you spell her name) is actually a man? Even though she was born with a vagina and is by all means a woman who just has some elevated testosterone? Yeah, there's no argument there, these people are just flat out wrong. "You're factually wrong" isn't enough to convince anyone because they're so ingrained with what they WANT to believe (Again, the simple, wrong answer) that facts elude them. And you are no better. You keep saying shit and most of it is so foolish I don't bother directly addressing it. From what I Can tell you are one of those 'if it doesn't appeal to me PERSONALLY then it has no right to be part of the medium' types. You encapsulate everything I've been ranting about, even if not a 1:1 example. So I don't even begin to know how to argue with you. You don't like a thing. Good for you. Would you like a cookie or something? You don't want to see unattractive women and appear to feel that this is an affront to you personally and the medium as a whole. What do I even say to that? "Okay, then don't play it and go fap to some gacha waifu game"? I mean, that's the answer, but instead of simply saying 'this isn't for me' and moving on, you seem to think it's ruining the medium. I genuinely don't know how to teach you that you are not the only person who's tastes matter. I don't like Phoenix wright, I personally think everything about those games is dumb as hell. I hate the writing, I hate the style, I hate the Saturday morning cartoon version of how legal proceedings work. I hate it so much...but I don't bitch about it because I see others like it. My roommates love it. And I'm glad it exists because it means that the medium is healthy. IT's not for me but it has an audience. Same with Monster Hunter. Those games are monstrously popular and I do not understand why. I hate the controls, I hate the gameplay loop, I hate the animations and on a personal level I hate hunting (I even feel bad about it in games like Red Dead), but I don't think those games shouldn't exist. I don't see the appeal but they make a lot of people happy so I am glad that they exist. I don't tend to like a lot of indie games that are poignant and deep and meaningful unless they also have really fun gameplay like Celeste. But again, I'm incredibly glad they exist because Video Games are an art form and that means EVERYONE gets to express themselves and feel represented. That means everyone deserves to feel like they matter or that the world is listening. Sometimes that means bald women. Sometimes that means various ethnicities that aren't what you're used to. Sometimes that means people who aren't straight, don't identify with the sex they were born with, or don't engage in traditional paradigms. That is what 'woke' is, the idea that change needs to happen to make the world a better place for everyone. It's not everyone else's fault that the people this medium primarily catered to for decades are insecure, selfish, entitled brats. It's not a gay black trans woman's fault that a straight white male doesn't want anyone else to sit at the same table as him. THAT is why being 'woke' is a good thing, because we want the table to offer a seat to anyone and everyone who wants a meal, not just the fuckers who are already fat off gorging for the last 30 years. THAT is why I'm always so fucking angry about all this. I'm so sick of hearing entitled brats complaining that others get to feel like they matter so they frame it as oppression on their part so they can feel justified in making a hostile environment for anyone who dares approach. |
All that would be okay... if games didn't cost a fortune to make, and if they don't sell well, the company that made them, risk closure.
So yes, its great there are games that appeal to say "gay black trans women" (the example you used).
However, if the bigger part of the public, don't want a game, that appeals to "gay black trans women" (as they aren't that, and cant identify with it), that is a issue.
Because
1) people are not getting what they want (and the consumer, is always right.... ei. things won't sell well otherwise). Which sucks for the majority.
Great for that 1 gay black trans guy, that loves the game though (as you point out) (but how many of them are buying games?).
2) AAA games, cannot take, appealing to a minority, if it kills sales.
Look at something like Concord/suicide squad kill the justice league..., next to Marvel Rivals. This woke stuff, doesn't appeal to enough people.
Some "old greats" studios like Bioware, is now at risk of closing down.
Ubisoft, could also fall apart.... and they both bet everything on going super woke, with their upcoming games.
What happends if Mass effect and the new Assasins Creeds, sales are bad? Bioware cannot take another Dragon Age Veilguard with sales (people are saying).
Ubisoft apparently bleed like 1.5bn in 2024, or something crazy like that.
They dropped like 85%+ of the shares value as a company. Assasin Creeds Shadows flops... and its over potentially for them.
So while the anti-woke might want to see what they deem too woke, doing poorly (if you don't like something, why support it?).
I think most overall want the best for companies. They want them to make great games, that appeal to the masses, and sell well.
Meanwhile the woke side, is cheering on all this stuff, that appeals to a tiny minority of people, even if its potentially hurting sales.
Its going to lead to companies closing down. Ei. the market will contract/shrink = less games for everyone.