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I find...

Both Carts & discs better 26 52.00%
 
I find carts better not discs 7 14.00%
 
I find discs better not carts 2 4.00%
 
I find digital better 11 22.00%
 
I find streaming better 0 0%
 
I have no opinion. 4 8.00%
 
Total:50
SuntannedDuck2 said:

Out of carts or disks I don't care either way even though carts I feel like besides the cleaning or pins I do think they are better than disks of condition.

Demos I'd say are fine for digital even if physical is still interesting that way of demos. I mean if people don't want to set up an account then well why not with physical of old consoles or local accounts then the extra to go with for eshops or online and such or trophy/achievement syncing.

Besides that I prefer physical for many reasons. You can do the not so intended of archiving but you can also even if yes have to get up all the time and without a disk changer or cart changer. But you actually have the 1.0 or whatever version on the cart (Switch, can't say for PS/Xbox if they care and just go eh we don't care for bug fix reprints) on what certain disks these days but you never know what percentage of the game will work and that's interesting seeing how the 1.0 versions are for those that are complete, I own a few PS4/Vita/Xbox One/Wii U and Switch 1.0 versions. It's interesting.

I can play a 1.0 version and go oh this is how it was or it be complete. No Man's Sky, Minecraft 1.2/Jungle update on legacy versions, whatever Bedrock/prior were at it's interesting. I mean on PC Java you can pick any version, can't do that Bedrock PC/any console version so 1.0 disk it is.

Let alone any that had issues, how buggy they were, how some like Dark Void I had to use the 1.0 as the update 1.1 crashes, so I mean why bother.

You can have definitive editions (less so these days as just codes and standard edition disks combined, what a definitive edition then, XD which sucks).

You on 360 could 'choose' instead of PS3/PS4/Xbox One etc. where it's forced installs. Having that optional chance is nice. While Nintendo still makes them run off the disk/cart and you free up space and they go well we will just make it run as best we can while not offering installs which I find interesting.

The packaging/art is nice to have then a digital and going yep, got card/wallet top up, and browsing and all that effort and it's delisted or it's not always on the store or otherwise.

To be fair I find even some tutorials/menus with controls still bad at communicating unless a hack n slash or something with a lot of button inputs actually specify two button actions. I always hate that, tutorials, menus or manuals at least it varies but still can happen.

Going to the store physical/ordering if have to is a lot more work but the trip is always enjoyable to go there, see what it there, see what Indies even make it to physical is interesting as well. Seeing what limited IPs even make it to physical anymore besides the wider digital view.

I also just don't like the eshop layouts let alone some of the OS layouts for the consoles so a physical to just browse is enough still for me of the titles, the box and more to see what's there, compare prices to digital/physical, seeing stock as well. Knowing you have your physical limits of stock left.

Using a screen, (not that I do prefers but a timer and it taking up space and all that) it's just not fun or enjoyable at all. Sure physical takes up space but I have more fair time with physical space and not awkward state of things and less to deal with of oh if I don't like the game (even though I already research if I like something or not anyway when at a physical store or before digital or otherwise).

But the digital refunds and the licensing terms are just so bad why would I bother. Oh if you download it then nope, like you might as well have already looked it up before purchase. Or other factors. The digital terms are so stupid. You can't swap a disk to digital because they won't let you.

Among other things. Not looking forward to less temp files and otherwise control over purchases and tiers of resolution and no box and all that with streaming, pass on all of it.

There is enough of reading manuals or having a controls slip or an artbook, having them on your shelf, the physical bonuses I don't care for with anime/game limited editions or day one editions, really anyway unless it's an artbook or OST (cough of course they are 'partial' OST tracks offered ones which is annoying but I don't know how wav or otherwise they are then just some MP3s on a disk, so if they are more clear then compressed sure if not then well while I don't care you would question the storage size/licensing and such there right?) on a disk, otherwise pass on stickers or statues or other stuff.

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SvennoJ said:
Jumpin said:

I've been all digital for over a decade now. Although, I still maintain a substantial physical library (in totes). Digital media has numerous benefits over physical media: significantly greater variety of content, no durability concerns, and convenience across games, books, TV, music, and films. While physical collections have nostalgic appeal, digital formats provide superior advantages:

  • Durability and Security: No wear and tear from usage or the environment (dust, moisture), and your collection is safely stored across multiple devices and cloud storage. Lost or stolen accounts can often be recovered, unlike physical media - which is often gone forever; and it's usually not some burglar stealing it so much as friends of your kids - and you might not even notice until you're moving over a year later and realize some of your stuff is missing.
  • Management: Ties into the above, you know where all your stuff is at all times - but not with physical media, especially if you own hundreds or thousands of items. This especially comes in handy if you've moved as much as I have in my life (across continents and oceans in the past, made a small move, just a few kilometres this year, and that was rough enough).
  • Clutter-Free Living: A digital collection requires no storage space, making it perfect for people who move frequently or prefer minimalism. If you want to dedicate rooms to plants, art, or other luxury items - you have way more space to do so.
  • Convenience: Access your entire library on multiple devices like notebooks, phones, and consoles without carrying physical clutter. Moving your collection across platforms is seamless. Particularly on modern platforms. Access to my full library books, TV shows, films, music, and many games in my living room on my new 4K TV, or on my phone, in my pocket. And with the Switch and M1 MacBook Air, all of my Steam and console games from 2017 in a laptop bag.
  • Availability and Speed: Digital platforms make even rare or niche content easily accessible and downloadable, unlike physical items that may require long waits or go out of print. Indie creators have largely abandoned physical media (music, video, and gaming) - in the past, whole countries were excluded from not just indie games, but mainstream gaming companies. 
  • Environmental Benefits: If you're a Greenie, like myself, then this might be a concern to you. All digital contributes less to waste and pollution from manufacturing, shipping, and plastics helps minimize your carbon footprint. I understand many people don't care about the environment, and are actually purposely hostile toward it because of political affiliations - so this one isn't for everyone.

All in all, I don't miss having my data on a whole bunch of different pieces of plastic. I have found going full digital to be a significant improvement. And, in fact, the time I did have physical media is still a massive burden for me, because I still have a lot of that junk.

I disagree with all your points:

Durability and Security: I've lost far more digital games to HDD failures, losing passwords, losing track of where I bought what, than I've lost physical games from wear and tear.

Management: I have no clue where a lot of the digital stuff is I have bought in the past. Some services don't exist anymore, a lot of other games I have bought directly from the publisher but lost / forget where from in HDD failures / old age. My physical collection is all inside my house. Even if I lose track of something (due to my kids misplacing it) it will turn up again.

Clutter-Free Living: I like a clean game library on my console. It takes me much longer to remember where / locate digital titles in the sea of add-ons and PS+ titles on PSN, the ocean of stuff I don't want from Humble bundles, and the mess of bundles on Steam. It's a lot more effort to get manage digital titles compared to physical items. My brain is also wired to remember where I placed what, not to remember what digital item came from where.

Convenience: All my physical games are where I left them, fast easy re-installs. Digital costs a lot more effort to track them down again, and then I have to download them again. Digital games also clutter up my HDD/SSDs and make it harder to find what I want to play after its installed.

Availability and speed:
Having bought games from fledgling developers by snail mail, from Australia no less on 3.5" floppy disc. The lack of availability is only because of digital. My internet speed is also still well below install speed from disc. And Nintendo cartridges often don't require installs at all.

Environmental benefits: With the size of games ballooning, it's more environmentally friendly to re-install a game instead of downloading games over and over. The threshold was 120Gb some years ago in a study. Thus depending on the size of the game, it's more environmentally friendly to install mutiple times from disc over re-downloading games.

I hate having my data over a bunch of different digital stores / publishers / services.

Seems we've had very different experiences. But perhaps it's different for people who own PlayStation - which I mostly gave up on during PS3, and completely after Vita (although I still use my Vita for certain classic games), and I use it as a 100% digital platform (and none of the games are particularly large in size, mostly PSX games). But I can run most of my Steam library, my iOS library, and all of my Mwitch library, my books, music, films, TV shows, my writing software, productivity apps, everything from the contents of one laptop case. Easily searched, easily accessible - and if I lost my laptop case, I have access to all that stuff from other machines at my house.

Granted, I don't think I own any games that are over 25GB (maybe a few on Steam). Earlier digital platforms are problematic - I did lose Minecraft, but mostly because I didn't bother playing it for over a decade, and when I checked on it, the old vendor had long been eliminated, and most people migrated their accounts over to something else. And my Wii library is locked to my Wii U (I know), but most of what I want from it is now on Switch.

The issues of the old digital platforms are mostly ironed out with modern platforms - especially since you can sync all the different platforms up on things like Apple and Roku and navigate all of your libraries as though it were all a single platform. And it's not just digital libraries, but also streaming services (except Netflix, which doesn't share its API with third parties like every other platform out there).

But, if I were to be asked about my physical library (before I catalogued it all), I don't know what I've lost, I don't know what still works, what doesn't (I'm guessing very little prior to the SNES still works, many of those games barely worked by the middle of the 1990s). I don't know what games got "borrowed" by friends of my kids, or even my old friends, and not returned - that's more or less how I lost all my Gamecube stuff in University (not that I miss it all that much, I didn't bother replacing it, and I have no idea where the guy who borrowed it is - but I still have Skies of Arcadia Legends!).

But in the end, different experiences. After reading your post, I see how both things can be made to work. All digital works a lot better for me. If I were to be all-physical, I'd probably manage it all from a single spreadsheet booklet with some kind of dashboard to navigate it all.



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Leynos said:
Jumpin said:

I've been all digital for over a decade now. Although, I still maintain a substantial physical library (in totes). Digital media has numerous benefits over physical media: significantly greater variety of content, no durability concerns, and convenience across games, books, TV, music, and films. While physical collections have nostalgic appeal, digital formats provide superior advantages:

  • Environmental Benefits: If you're a Greenie, like myself, then this might be a concern to you. All digital contributes less to waste and pollution from manufacturing, shipping, and plastics helps minimize your carbon footprint. I understand many people don't care about the environment, and are actually purposely hostile toward it because of political affiliations - so this one isn't for everyone.

All in all, I don't miss having my data on a whole bunch of different pieces of plastic. I have found going full digital to be a significant improvement. And, in fact, the time I did have physical media is still a massive burden for me, because I still have a lot of that junk.

This was proven to be a myth years ago as servers maintaining digital games and ESP in the era added NFTs they cause more green house gases. If games were still under 10GB and gaas had not taken over and no NFTs you'd be right but games reaching hundreds of GBs and now a large chunk of games being gaas. Some include MTX and NFTs that is far from the case anymore. Then account for how many watts a PS5 or Xbox generates or a 4090 now think what the 5090 swill be.

I agree that NFTs are a big issue - and it's tied to the same technology that crypto-currency uses. But that's not true for the vast majority of software and digital items which require a trivial amount of energy. It's been brought up that on platforms like PS5, some games can get to 150+ GB, which might mean a lot of secondary storage if you have a lot of those. But again, that's a small matter compared to the vast majority of games out there. And NFT/high fidelity gaming is something I generally don't take part in. For the most part, digital games are significantly more green friendly as they limit manufacturing, shipment, packaging waste, in exchange for what amounts to trivial electrical expenditure when compared to actually running the software - physical or digital, it's all about reading data.

But on blockchain/tokens technology, I don't disagree.



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Leynos said:
SuntannedDuck2 said:

Out of carts or disks I don't care either way even though carts I feel like besides the cleaning or pins I do think they are better than disks of condition.

Demos I'd say are fine for digital even if physical is still interesting that way of demos. I mean if people don't want to set up an account then well why not with physical of old consoles or local accounts then the extra to go with for eshops or online and such or trophy/achievement syncing.

Besides that I prefer physical for many reasons. You can do the not so intended of archiving but you can also even if yes have to get up all the time and without a disk changer or cart changer. But you actually have the 1.0 or whatever version on the cart (Switch, can't say for PS/Xbox if they care and just go eh we don't care for bug fix reprints) on what certain disks these days but you never know what percentage of the game will work and that's interesting seeing how the 1.0 versions are for those that are complete, I own a few PS4/Vita/Xbox One/Wii U and Switch 1.0 versions. It's interesting.

I can play a 1.0 version and go oh this is how it was or it be complete. No Man's Sky, Minecraft 1.2/Jungle update on legacy versions, whatever Bedrock/prior were at it's interesting. I mean on PC Java you can pick any version, can't do that Bedrock PC/any console version so 1.0 disk it is.

Let alone any that had issues, how buggy they were, how some like Dark Void I had to use the 1.0 as the update 1.1 crashes, so I mean why bother.

You can have definitive editions (less so these days as just codes and standard edition disks combined, what a definitive edition then, XD which sucks).

You on 360 could 'choose' instead of PS3/PS4/Xbox One etc. where it's forced installs. Having that optional chance is nice. While Nintendo still makes them run off the disk/cart and you free up space and they go well we will just make it run as best we can while not offering installs which I find interesting.

The packaging/art is nice to have then a digital and going yep, got card/wallet top up, and browsing and all that effort and it's delisted or it's not always on the store or otherwise.

To be fair I find even some tutorials/menus with controls still bad at communicating unless a hack n slash or something with a lot of button inputs actually specify two button actions. I always hate that, tutorials, menus or manuals at least it varies but still can happen.

Going to the store physical/ordering if have to is a lot more work but the trip is always enjoyable to go there, see what it there, see what Indies even make it to physical is interesting as well. Seeing what limited IPs even make it to physical anymore besides the wider digital view.

I also just don't like the eshop layouts let alone some of the OS layouts for the consoles so a physical to just browse is enough still for me of the titles, the box and more to see what's there, compare prices to digital/physical, seeing stock as well. Knowing you have your physical limits of stock left.

Using a screen, (not that I do prefers but a timer and it taking up space and all that) it's just not fun or enjoyable at all. Sure physical takes up space but I have more fair time with physical space and not awkward state of things and less to deal with of oh if I don't like the game (even though I already research if I like something or not anyway when at a physical store or before digital or otherwise).

But the digital refunds and the licensing terms are just so bad why would I bother. Oh if you download it then nope, like you might as well have already looked it up before purchase. Or other factors. The digital terms are so stupid. You can't swap a disk to digital because they won't let you.

Among other things. Not looking forward to less temp files and otherwise control over purchases and tiers of resolution and no box and all that with streaming, pass on all of it.

There is enough of reading manuals or having a controls slip or an artbook, having them on your shelf, the physical bonuses I don't care for with anime/game limited editions or day one editions, really anyway unless it's an artbook or OST (cough of course they are 'partial' OST tracks offered ones which is annoying but I don't know how wav or otherwise they are then just some MP3s on a disk, so if they are more clear then compressed sure if not then well while I don't care you would question the storage size/licensing and such there right?) on a disk, otherwise pass on stickers or statues or other stuff.

Anyway here is wondertextwall

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