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Many people are talking about having all the Xenoblade games on one console.
I'm looking at it this way. All three of my favourite open world games (Breath of the Wild, Xenoblade Chronicles X, and Witcher 3) are all on one console.

For Xeno games, I'm specifically interested in getting all of them in one place, that includes Xenogears, Xenosaga (at least Episode 1, but I'd like all three), and even the prior games that have weak spiritual ties into the Xeno-games: Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6 (already on Switch).

For those who don't know the history of the game development, Xenogears began as a sequel to both Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger - some elements of the game made it into Final Fantasy 7 since the script was given to a separate team after Takahashi worked on it.
Many elements of Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger made it in:
Gears are the second version of Magitek Armour, which Takahashi wanted to make more "Esper-like" in the game. Gears then became Skells and Mechons in the Xenoblade series - you could say the first true Mechon was Nikolai Balthasar in Xenogears - since he was merged into a Gear like the Mechons, and several others were later (that would be a spoiler though).
The Three Goddesses and Lavos are more or less combined into Deus - Deus powers the Gears much like the goddesses from FF6 powers the Espers, Deus also controls the world from its resting place much like Lavos from Chrono Trigger. Deus also has an extra terrestrial origin like Lavos (which is seen in the first minutes of the game).
The Fatima dynasty is directly based on the Figaro family - the brothers Rene and Roni Fatima are revisions of Edgar and Sabin - Roni and Rene are their middle games - and their ship is the successor of Figaro Castle.

Xenogears, for any who don't know, is also the main inspiration for the stories of all subsequent Xeno-games: Xenosaga, and all four of the Xenoblade games. Elements of Xenosaga made it into Xenoblade as well, the beanstalk is almost the same design as Fifth Jerusalem's beanstalk orbital station tower. The story of Xenogears is bigger and more fleshed out than any of those games though, but a lot of it is told in summary in the later portions of the game (because they didn't want to cut the end of the game, but they also didn't have the budget to make it).

And for Xenogears fans who aren't sure. Check out this book, you can get it for cheap on ebook (like 2-3 quid).

Many people are talking about having all the Xenoblade games on one console.
I'm looking at it this way. All three of my favourite open world games (Breath of the Wild, Xenoblade Chronicles X, and Witcher 3) are all on one console.

For Xeno games, I'm specifically interested in getting all of them in one place, that includes Xenogears, Xenosaga (at least Episode 1, but I'd like all three), and even the prior games that have weak spiritual ties into the Xeno-games: Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6 (already on Switch).

For those who don't know the history of the game development, Xenogears began as a sequel to both Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger - some elements of the game made it into Final Fantasy 7 since the script was given to a separate team after Takahashi worked on it.
Many elements of Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger made it in:
Gears are the second version of Magitek Armour, which Takahashi wanted to make more "Esper-like" in the game. Gears then became Skells and Mechons in the Xenoblade series - you could say the first true Mechon was Nikolai Balthasar in Xenogears - since he was merged into a Gear like the Mechons, and several others were later (that would be a spoiler though).
The Three Goddesses and Lavos are more or less combined into Deus - Deus powers the Gears much like the goddesses from FF6 powers the Espers, Deus also controls the world from its resting place much like Lavos from Chrono Trigger. Deus also has an extra terrestrial origin like Lavos (which is seen in the first minutes of the game).
The Fatima dynasty is directly based on the Figaro family - the brothers Rene and Roni Fatima are revisions of Edgar and Sabin - Roni and Rene are their middle games - and their ship is the successor of Figaro Castle.

Xenogears, for any who don't know, is also the main inspiration for the stories of all subsequent Xeno-games: Xenosaga, and all four of the Xenoblade games. Elements of Xenosaga made it into Xenoblade as well, the beanstalk is almost the same design as Fifth Jerusalem's beanstalk orbital station tower. The story of Xenogears is bigger and more fleshed out than any of those games though, but a lot of it is told in summary in the later portions of the game (because they didn't want to cut the end of the game, but they also didn't have the budget to make it).

And for Xenogears fans who aren't sure. You'll notice a lot of science fiction influence, but by far the biggest is Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke - it combines elements from that book and another of his books 2001. you can get it for cheap (like 1-2 quid) or free if you live in countries where its public domain:

For 2001, I'd recommend the film over the book. But it's a bit arty; a bit interpretive. So, if you don't care about interpretive art and are more about plot, the book 2001 might be more your thing. But both are good, I'd recommend Film first, book second for 2001.

2001 is dark.
Childhood's End is darker. Some people prefer 2001, but IMO there's no comparison between the two, Childhood's End is Clarke's masterpiece.



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Given the good relations Nintendo has with both Bandai Namco and Square Enix, making remasters happen for Xenosaga and Xenogears shouldn't be impossible in the future, after all Bandai made remasters of Baten Kaitos recently, another Monolith Soft developed series.



There is a reference to Xenogears in H-Fi Rushttps://www.reddit.com/r/Xenoblade_Chronicles/comments/10moihr/the_game_hifi_rush_has_a_xenogears_disc_2/h. Chai is sitting on a couch in a spotlight as his MP3 player is in the foreground swinging back and forth.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

I hope it has an extra campaign like Future Connected, Future Redeemed, or Torna the Golden Country; as it is the story felt incomplete.

My least favourite Xenoblade overall as a result of this and having a little too much padding, but still a good game on the strength of its incredible world, deep gameplay, and raw ambition.



BraLoD said:

Funny to see when Nintendo remaster a game the response is either good or neutral but when Sony does it the response is overwhelming hate, lol.

Sony keeps remastering games no one asked for and leaving IPs people want on the shelf. How long have people begged for Bloodborne? Xenoblade Chronicles X, like Bloodborne, has been asked for years. Unlike Sony, Nintendo finally gave people that they wanted. You know something is wrong when you can release a The Last of Us 1 Trilogy.



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Darc Requiem said:
BraLoD said:

Funny to see when Nintendo remaster a game the response is either good or neutral but when Sony does it the response is overwhelming hate, lol.

Sony keeps remastering games no one asked for and leaving IPs people want on the shelf. How long have people begged for Bloodborne? Xenoblade Chronicles X, like Bloodborne, has been asked for years. Unlike Sony, Nintendo finally gave people that they wanted. You know something is wrong when you can release a The Last of Us 1 Trilogy.

TLoU is by far more impactfull than Xenoblade X, it's also older, even the remaster is older than XCX. The TLoU Remake is also vastly more updated compared to either the original or the remaster than this definitive version is for the original Wii U game. Not a good choice of example I would say.

I've played TLoU on PS3 and I never felt like getting either the remaster or the remake, the same for Horizon Zero Dawn, but that would very likely be the same if I had already played XCX. Also, the original Xenoblade Chronicles also has released a trilogy of the same game... Wii, 3DS and Switch. So we can clearly see there is also something wrong with Xenoblade Chronicles... right? No.

I'm happy to be able to have all 4 XC games on the Switch, but it's very clear the treatment is not the same based on reception.



BraLoD said:

Funny to see when Nintendo remaster a game the response is either good or neutral but when Sony does it the response is overwhelming hate, lol.

Show me where I can insert a Wii U disc on my Switch.  I can play all my PS4 games on PS5 already.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Leynos said:
BraLoD said:

Funny to see when Nintendo remaster a game the response is either good or neutral but when Sony does it the response is overwhelming hate, lol.

Show me where I can insert a Wii U disc on my Switch.  I can play all my PS4 games on PS5 already.

So because the Switch doesn't have BC and the PS5 has BC, the PS5 is the one to get hate? Giving options is now worse than not giving them? lol.



BraLoD said:
Darc Requiem said:

Sony keeps remastering games no one asked for and leaving IPs people want on the shelf. How long have people begged for Bloodborne? Xenoblade Chronicles X, like Bloodborne, has been asked for years. Unlike Sony, Nintendo finally gave people that they wanted. You know something is wrong when you can release a The Last of Us 1 Trilogy.

TLoU is by far more impactfull than Xenoblade X, it's also older, even the remaster is older than XCX. The TLoU Remake is also vastly more updated compared to either the original or the remaster than this definitive version is for the original Wii U game. Not a good choice of example I would say.

I've played TLoU on PS3 and I never felt like getting either the remaster or the remake, the same for Horizon Zero Dawn, but that would very likely be the same if I had already played XCX. Also, the original Xenoblade Chronicles also has released a trilogy of the same game... Wii, 3DS and Switch. So we can clearly see there is also something wrong with Xenoblade Chronicles... right? No.

I'm happy to be able to have all 4 XC games on the Switch, but it's very clear the treatment is not the same based on reception.

Wii u 13.56 million, switch 143.49 million+ 

Ps4 117.19 million, ps5 61.94 million+

This is why people are fine with this. Plus most of the games Sony are remastering are already readily available on ps5. Also Sony are releasing very few actual new games, which is the main frustration people have at the moment.



Nice, so that means all of the Nintendo Xeno- games are on Switch.


Also the only WiiU games I want now that are stuck on the WiiU are Paper Mario Color Splash and Zelda TP HD/WW HD.