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Which do you think was the better system?

Xbox 26 46.43%
 
Dreamcast 30 53.57%
 
Total:56
Mar1217 on 02 October 2024

Can't say I was into either since I was a younging getting it's feet wet on a Gameboy Advance not far after the Dreamcast lifelight extinguished.

Anywoo, maybe I would've gel more with OG Xbox library of games due to the FPS getting really popular there to begin.

But knowadays it's quite easy to think I would gravitate towards the Dreamcast



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Chrkeller on 02 October 2024
BraLoD said:
Chrkeller said:

You keep bringing up PlayStation, as though I believe MS has had more impact than Sony.  I don't.  Sony is head-to-head with Nintendo for the most impactful company in gaming.  You are fighting an argument nobody made. 

And yes, MS has had way more impact than Sega in the gaming industry, that was one of my main points.

Sorry, I find Sega to be a one hit wonder.  I am entitled to my opinion.  Outside the Genesis, Sega has little legacy except for their core fans, who (IMHO) grossly overstate their importance in gaming.  Their living legacy is meh at best.  Even Sonic is second rate 3D platforming compared to Mario, Sackboy and Astrobot.  Sega hasn't been a major player in the industry for almost 30 years....  I wasn't even a teenager last time Sega was a power player.  

And you were welcome to find Sega games to be more important than MS.  I don't agree.  MS games, like Forza and Halo, are relevant today.  The vast majority of Sega franchises have no major impact today.  They aren't a major player and have not been a major player for a very long time.

Sega "had" personality.  Yeah, agreed.  30 years ago, they had something.  They haven't had much in decades.

So you prefer Sega over MS.  Congrats?  I just gave my opinion as someone who has owned every Sega, Nintendo, Sony and MS console to date (except the series X).  I'm not trying to change your mind.  You, however, are trying to change mine.  Sega is overrated, that is my opinion.  As someone who gamed on the CD, 32x, Saturn and DC...  bunch of dumpster fires.   

I mean, I don't get your point.  You love Sega.  I don't.  They are very much a one hit wonder.  The Genesis was amazing.  Their other systems, meh.  No lasting impact to gaming.  MS has brought a lot to the table that remains today.    

Sega is the epitome of a creative company that had zero execution and implementation.  Sega is arguably one of the poorest run organizations in gaming history.  Sega is lucky to hold Atlus and have Platinum developing Bayo games.  

MS is one of the biggest publishers in gaming history.  Sony is one of the biggest publishers in gaming history.  Nintendo is one of the biggest publishers in gaming history.  Sega is, at best, middle of the road with impact.  They are nobody. 

Having a good team 30 years ago isn't going to impress me.  The fact that Sega fans need to bring up consoles and games from the 90s says it all.

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fun fact.  Sega was in the hardware business from 1985 to 2001 (DC was discontinued), which is 16 years.  MS will be in the hardware business for 23 years and counting.       

another fun fact.  Sega is closer to Atari (66 million to 31 million) in hardware sales than they are to MS (150 million).  

I'm using Playstation to show you how your point stands no ground when Xbox is compared to something bigger.

If Sega is close to Atari than Xbox, then Xbox is also closer to Sega than to Playstation... do you see the point?

The same things you can say about Sega, using Xbox, I can say about Xbox, using Playstation, so if Sega is an one hit wonder because of this reasoning, what is different about the Xbox?

I'm not trying to chance your opinion, and I'm not trying to be rude either right, because I simply don't care.

The thread askes if you preffer the Xbox or the Dreamcast, after choosing the Xbox you decided to kick Sega down to futher validate your point, which needed no validation to begin with, it's your opinion, and I'm just pointing the same can be done to Xbox, because if that's your reason to pick the Xbox... it doesn't sound like a good reason at all.

I feel like we both said what we should, don't want to derail the thread anymore.

Your point is nonsensical.  

If I say 8 is bigger than 6, you pointing out 10 is bigger than 8 means nothing, because 8 is still bigger than 6.

I would agree that Sony puts MS to shame in gaming, especially this generation.  But Sony being better than MS doesn't have anything to do with MS vs Sega.

You are being rather silly. 

3rd place is higher than 4th place.  The fact 1st and 2nd exist doesn't mean suddenly 3=4.  

My personal ranking would be Nintendo =Sony>>>>>MS>>>Sega

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Leynos on 02 October 2024

90s was a smaller market. Judging today's sales vs the 90s is like saying 70s NFL Qbs were shit by looking at stats alone. Practically no one threw for 4k yards in the 80s. Now they all do. Situations are different. MS modern-day sales for XBO and Series X are abysmal. 58 would be fantastic in 1999 but not in 2019. 28 million for Series 4 years in? Good for the 90s. Dismal failure now. It's about the most ignorant and narrow-minded argument. MS chased Sony and failed. They failed in Japan. MS Windows is the reason Xbox has not been shut down 15+ years ago. $$. Because Xbox was not making money but losing billions.



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curl-6 on 02 October 2024

Interesting results in the poll; it was neck and neck for the first 24 hours, but since then Dreamcast has started to pull ahead.
Xbox sold more than twice as much as Dreamcast back in day; it seems like twenty years later DC's following remains more dedicated. Or, maybe someone just started exploiting the poll. (I hope not)



BraLoD on 02 October 2024
Chrkeller said:
BraLoD said:

I'm using Playstation to show you how your point stands no ground when Xbox is compared to something bigger.

If Sega is close to Atari than Xbox, then Xbox is also closer to Sega than to Playstation... do you see the point?

The same things you can say about Sega, using Xbox, I can say about Xbox, using Playstation, so if Sega is an one hit wonder because of this reasoning, what is different about the Xbox?

I'm not trying to chance your opinion, and I'm not trying to be rude either right, because I simply don't care.

The thread askes if you preffer the Xbox or the Dreamcast, after choosing the Xbox you decided to kick Sega down to futher validate your point, which needed no validation to begin with, it's your opinion, and I'm just pointing the same can be done to Xbox, because if that's your reason to pick the Xbox... it doesn't sound like a good reason at all.

I feel like we both said what we should, don't want to derail the thread anymore.

Your point is nonsensical.  

If I say 8 is bigger than 6, you pointing out 10 is bigger than 8 means nothing, because 8 is still bigger than 6.

I would agree that Sony puts MS to shame in gaming, especially this generation.  But Sony being better than MS doesn't have anything to do with MS vs Sega.

You are being rather silly. 

3rd place is higher than 4th place.  The fact 1st and 2nd exist doesn't mean suddenly 3=4.  

My personal ranking would be Nintendo =Sony>>>>>MS>>>Sega

That's the point of the comparision, to point exactly that you saying Sega sold less than Microsoft and/or closer to Atari to claim it was an one hit wonder.

The nonsense is in you trying to use that to prove Sega was no good outside of the Mega Drive, while the very same reasoning makes the Xbox being no good outside of the 360... so what's the point in doing it? Either both are one hit wonders, thus it being pointless to call Sega out on it, or none are... thus making no sense to claim it either.

It's fine you have Sega is last place, many do, some would even put the Atari above some other brand. That's in line what was asked in the OP, not that other stuff, that doesn't even make sense, the reason why I was using the very same logic and examples to point it out to you.



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BFR on 02 October 2024

Bottom line is that MS has deeper pockets than Sega. They can take the hits and keep on fighting, whereas Sega is a fraction of what they were at their apex: the Genesis days.



Hynad on 02 October 2024
Leynos said:

Let's just pretend SEGA never had a lot of success in Arcades.

SEGA were the king of arcades, and paved the way for the likes of Namco and Midway.



HoloDust on 03 October 2024

I'd say from technical perspective, it's hardly a comparison, XBOX by a landslide.

When it comes to library, it's up to personal taste - as primarily a computer/PC gamer, XBOX titles were more up my alley.

As only time I was involved professionally in game development, XBOX - it never went further than prototype stage, but that was a platform we were to develope for.



Chrkeller on 03 October 2024
BraLoD said:
Chrkeller said:

Your point is nonsensical.  

If I say 8 is bigger than 6, you pointing out 10 is bigger than 8 means nothing, because 8 is still bigger than 6.

I would agree that Sony puts MS to shame in gaming, especially this generation.  But Sony being better than MS doesn't have anything to do with MS vs Sega.

You are being rather silly. 

3rd place is higher than 4th place.  The fact 1st and 2nd exist doesn't mean suddenly 3=4.  

My personal ranking would be Nintendo =Sony>>>>>MS>>>Sega

That's the point of the comparision, to point exactly that you saying Sega sold less than Microsoft and/or closer to Atari to claim it was an one hit wonder.

The nonsense is in you trying to use that to prove Sega was no good outside of the Mega Drive, while the very same reasoning makes the Xbox being no good outside of the 360... so what's the point in doing it? Either both are one hit wonders, thus it being pointless to call Sega out on it, or none are... thus making no sense to claim it either.

It's fine you have Sega is last place, many do, some would even put the Atari above some other brand. That's in line what was asked in the OP, not that other stuff, that doesn't even make sense, the reason why I was using the very same logic and examples to point it out to you.

I actually don't think MS is exactly great, so I'm fine calling them a one hit wonder.

But your argument, sorry, is really stupid.  "8 isn't bigger than 6 because of 10!"

And it isn't just sales but also legacy and impact.  Sega has very little has impact.  

Sega has been irrelevant for 30 years.  MS actually matters today.  MS has also been in the hardware business LONGER than Sega.



Chrkeller on 03 October 2024
Leynos said:

90s was a smaller market. Judging today's sales vs the 90s is like saying 70s NFL Qbs were shit by looking at stats alone. Practically no one threw for 4k yards in the 80s. Now they all do. Situations are different. MS modern-day sales for XBO and Series X are abysmal. 58 would be fantastic in 1999 but not in 2019. 28 million for Series 4 years in? Good for the 90s. Dismal failure now. It's about the most ignorant and narrow-minded argument. MS chased Sony and failed. They failed in Japan. MS Windows is the reason Xbox has not been shut down 15+ years ago. $$. Because Xbox was not making money but losing billions.

Top 20 includes Atari, NES, GBA and SNES.  The ps1 was the 90s.  The ps2 launched one year after the DC and is the best selling console of all time.  

Don't make excuses for Sega failing.  Market size isn't why they failed.