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Forums - Politics Discussion - UK riots. Are they all far right? (Poll)

 

These riots are caused by...

Solely far right 3 30.00%
 
Some Far right, mostly normal people. 2 20.00%
 
Mostly normal people 3 30.00%
 
An even mix of both. 2 20.00%
 
Total:10
Ryuu96 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Why is this so different than George Floyd riots which everyone was supporting? 19 people died in those protests. So many innocent people lost their livelihoods but did you see the people in power denouncing and labeling everyone communists or anarchists. No. There's a double standard. Again, I'm very neordivergent so I can't understand why this is the case, it makes no sense. 

Democrat politicians did denounce the violence caused by the George Floyd protests? But I'm not American, so I can't say how the public at large reacted to it. However, what I would say is the George Floyd protests were a result of an American cop killing a black man using negligent force (as too often happens in America), the current protests in the UK are a result of Misinformation spread by Far-Right grifters and now Immigrants/Muslims are being attacked because a Black British Born teenager killed 3 children.

Now answer me why people didn't riot like this when Lucy Letby killed 7 infants? When Kyle Clifford killed 3 people with a crossbow? When Marcus Monzo killed a black boy with a sword? The latter two things happened this year. We somehow understand that those white people don't represent all white people but we can't understand that a black British born person doesn't represent all immigrants and Muslims...Despite the dude not even being an immigrant or Muslim!

It may have been misinformation this time but what about all the others killings, rape, acid attacks, grooming gangs all crimes that illegal immigrants are able to get away with for the most part. People are afraid now that there daughter will get date raped, young girls have to be thought about needles had it happen here numerous times in the last few years, always immigrants when they get caught and they get off more lightly than a regulsr citizen would. We're paying out of our taxes to keep other countries people housed that are mostly childless men looking for better lives. It's not racist to say that these immigrants are bringing and have brought serious chaos and crime to Europe and the UK and them the government sides against it's own people who are rising up. I wouldn't be surprised if they cause a revolution with this level of disrespect for ordinary, naturally born citizens who are getting fucked because of Illegal immigration. What if your sisters, niece or wife got raped and the justice system let the offender off?



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Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, aka the grifter who is inciting violence, chilling it up on holiday while his foot-soldiers burn down the UK.




No, they're all not far right, but there are many racists among them, no doubt. The riots are disgusting, and the twitter misinformation debacle that allowed certain figures to benefit from decades long deep seated frustrations in the country is scandalous. I am still not for restricting social medias and for absolute freedom of speech, however, when the owner of X and its employees come up with algorithm that amplifies his tweets by a 1000% compared to the average user, and he uses that to spread misinformation then we have a problem. Who else is getting their tweets magnified and who benefits from this? this is a question needs to be asked and answers need to be sought, not to restrict freedoms but to level the playing field. 

The uk, is stuck between right wing bigots who point to real problems with no intention to fix them, a a left wing idealists who dismiss any concerns people have about mass and illegal immigration, cultural clashes and willing to lose elections over this, fake, idealistic stance. So, we end up with an inept government for 15 years that turned the country into a mess of homelessness, low birth rates, low paying jobs, castrated policemen, dysfunctional health system with illegal migration crisis on top. Jeremy Corbyn could've won in 2019 but he chose to put idealism first and dismiss the Brexit vote and any concerns about immigration, so we got 5 more years of tory incompetence. If you don't want people to end up listening to scum bags like Tommy Robinson, then drop this lethal idealism and address the issue, have the freaking conversation or you will lose come next elections and things will continue to get worse.



LegitHyperbole said:
Ryuu96 said:

Democrat politicians did denounce the violence caused by the George Floyd protests? But I'm not American, so I can't say how the public at large reacted to it. However, what I would say is the George Floyd protests were a result of an American cop killing a black man using negligent force (as too often happens in America), the current protests in the UK are a result of Misinformation spread by Far-Right grifters and now Immigrants/Muslims are being attacked because a Black British Born teenager killed 3 children.

Now answer me why people didn't riot like this when Lucy Letby killed 7 infants? When Kyle Clifford killed 3 people with a crossbow? When Marcus Monzo killed a black boy with a sword? The latter two things happened this year. We somehow understand that those white people don't represent all white people but we can't understand that a black British born person doesn't represent all immigrants and Muslims...Despite the dude not even being an immigrant or Muslim!

It may have been misinformation this time but what about all the others killings, rape, acid attacks, grooming gangs all crimes that illegal immigrants are able to get away with for the most part. People are afraid now that there daughter will get date raped, young girls have to be thought about needles had it happen here numerous times in the last few years, always immigrants when they get caught and they get off more lightly than a regulsr citizen would. We're paying out of our taxes to keep other countries people housed that are mostly childless men looking for better lives. It's not racist to say that these immigrants are bringing and have brought serious chaos and crime to Europe and the UK and them the government sides against it's own people who are rising up. I wouldn't be surprised if they cause a revolution with this level of disrespect for ordinary, naturally born citizens who are getting fucked because of Illegal immigration. What if your sisters, niece or wife got raped and the justice system let the offender off?

That's your defence? The whole reason people are rioting this time, burning down buildings with innocent people in them, destroying peoples shops, stabbing and beating up innocent people, may be bullshit this time, but what about the time that an immigrant killed someone in the past? Since when did they get away with these crimes? The vast majority of them are locked up. Don't act like white people don't commit rape, murder, etc, as well. Right now I'm afraid my non-white friends will get attacked by a group of racists.

Right now the people causing "serious chaos and crime" to the UK are mostly white people rioting because they want to attack immigrants and Muslims because a British born black teenager killed 3 children. The Government is not "siding against its own people" it's siding against people committing violence and crime as they did in 2011 as well and don't try to label all of the UK as with "these people". The majority of us are ashamed of what is happening right now, why is the government not therefore siding with us who are ashamed? Also, non-white British born citizens being attacked are also "our people"

You completely ignored me why people didn't riot when Lucy Letby (a white woman) killed 7 infants, or when Kyle Clifford (a white man) killed a mother and her 2 daughters with a crossbow, or when Marcus Monzo (a white man) killed a black boy with a sword. I'll say again, we understood those people didn't represent entire communities but we are unable to understand that a Black British lad doesn't represent all immigrants and Muslims.

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Can this be moved to the Political threads?
I don't want to have to block out general discussions from appearing in the feed.



...to avoid getting banned for inactivity, I may have to resort to comments that are of a lower overall quality and or beneath my moral standards.

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Ryuu96 said:
Chrkeller said:

Agreed.  I tried explaining that in the political thread but nobody wanted to hear it.  Too many clutch their labels like pearls.  

I've often tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but you are seriously annoying the fuck out of me lately with your snowflake attitude because people debated you in the politics thread and now you're coming here to moan about it some more, what is happening in the UK right now is disgusting and you're moaning about what happened in the Election Thread still. What did they do?! You weren't moderated. You had a debate with some people, you dipped out but you're still complaining about it in every other thread you get the chance to.

Lol, seemed on topic to me.  I agree with Tober's point.  Am I not allowed to agree with his point?  

I think labels are wrong, tried to say as much but was shut down.

If you are embarrassed, that isn't my problem.  

I'm sure you have yet another label coming my way.  Labeling seems to be your jam.  



Ryuu96 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

It may have been misinformation this time but what about all the others killings, rape, acid attacks, grooming gangs all crimes that illegal immigrants are able to get away with for the most part. People are afraid now that there daughter will get date raped, young girls have to be thought about needles had it happen here numerous times in the last few years, always immigrants when they get caught and they get off more lightly than a regulsr citizen would. We're paying out of our taxes to keep other countries people housed that are mostly childless men looking for better lives. It's not racist to say that these immigrants are bringing and have brought serious chaos and crime to Europe and the UK and them the government sides against it's own people who are rising up. I wouldn't be surprised if they cause a revolution with this level of disrespect for ordinary, naturally born citizens who are getting fucked because of Illegal immigration. What if your sisters, niece or wife got raped and the justice system let the offender off?

That's your defence? The whole reason people are rioting this time, burning down buildings with innocent people in them, destroying peoples shops, stabbing and beating up innocent people, may be bullshit this time, but what about the time that an immigrant killed someone in the past? Since when did they get away with these crimes? The vast majority of them are locked up. Don't act like white people don't commit rape, murder, etc, as well. Right now I'm afraid my non-white friends will get attacked by a group of racists.

Right now the people causing "serious chaos and crime" to the UK are mostly white people rioting because they want to attack immigrants and Muslims because a British born black teenager killed 3 children. The Government is not "siding against its own people" it's siding against people committing violence and crime as they did in 2011 as well and don't try to label all of the UK as with "these people". The majority of us are ashamed of what is happening right now, why is the government not therefore siding with us who are ashamed? Also, non-white British born citizens being attacked are also "our people"

You completely ignored me why people didn't riot when Lucy Letby (a white woman) killed 7 infants, or when Kyle Clifford (a white man) killed a mother and her 2 daughters with a crossbow, or when Marcus Monzo (a white man) killed a black boy with a sword. I'll say again, we understood those people didn't represent entire communities but we are unable to understand that a Black British lad doesn't represent all immigrants and Muslims.

You see it all the time. People getting prosecuted over mean tweets, Facebook posts and the like but grooming gangs let off with a slap on the wrist or given lesser sentences. And I didn't ignore you, it goes without saying this is the straw that broke the camels back like in 2011 and with George Floyd, people aren't going to riot after every death cause there'd be riots every week. This is the breaking point. 



These riots are happening due to the sheer frustration the people are feeling about uncontrolled mass immigration and the crimes that many of them are committing when they come here. We are a welcoming country, but you need to obey our laws and accept our traditions and culture. Otherwise you are not welcome anymore.



DroidKnight said:

Can this be moved to the Political threads?
I don't want to have to block out general discussions from appearing in the feed.

Oh, I' sorry. I didn't realise there was a politics option. Apologies. 



Shaun87 said:

These riots are happening due to the sheer frustration the people are feeling about uncontrolled mass immigration and the crimes that many of them are committing when they come here. We are a welcoming country, but you need to obey our laws and accept our traditions and culture. Otherwise you are not welcome anymore.

The UK is a multicultural country for decades now, people never complained and were only lightly xenophobic which shows it's the crimes that they are committing that has people pissed off rather than the people themselves. It's basic common sense yet the Governemnt goes straight to the racist card. It's so frustrating. The UK had an ethnic Prime Minister just a fortnight ago for F sake.