I'm not arguing with you.  Rachet, Demon and other next gen titles obviously destroy it.  A 1060 runs RDR2...  that is an old ass gpu.  Full stop. 

Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora has probably one of the most -impressive- environments graphically and Hellblade 2 has one of the most impressive character rendering pipelines going with some very very impressive subsurface scattering going on, giving the skin a very realistic look.

And Hogwarts Legacy has some stupidly impressive lighting considering whats going on in the world.

Are they the pinnicle of the current generation of consoles? No. But it's definitely exciting to see where things go over the next 4~ years as developers start to push the current generation hardware, harder.

The bonus is we are finally dropping the shackles of last generation technology, albeit slowly.

I have not played Hell or Alan 2. But for me RE4 on ultra settings 4k at 80 to 120 fps was just mind blowing. The lighting, particles and volumetric effects were clearly next generation and couldn't be done on a ps4.

fsr makes me want to get a ps5 pro or pc it's so freaking bad on ps5 RES4.

I haven't been impressed with FSR.  DLSS I love for rendered 1440p to 4k.  1080p DLSS to 4k is solid.  

It can help a lot.  TLoU part 1, which is a crap port, runs at 40 to 60 fps at max settings via 4k.  I popped rendering to 1440p and DLSS to 4k and got 80 to 120 fps.  Max settings is gorgeous.

I am most excited to give Ragnarok a go on PC.  Sounds like they are putting in a lot of extra bells and whistles.  A 4070ti is no joke for ultra settings.  Based on gpu recommendations I don't think Ragnarok is going to be a straight ps5 port. 

I still think the best resolution is 1440p.  Plenty sharp but doesn't kill fps like 4k.  

And I can't say enough about 80 to 120 fps.  That shit is amazing.  

Man that's the ultimate gaming machine. Yea are not playing around about getting the ultimate gaming experiance. 

I haven't been impressed with FSR.  DLSS I love for rendered 1440p to 4k.  1080p DLSS to 4k is solid.  

It can help a lot.  TLoU part 1, which is a crap port, runs at 40 to 60 fps at max settings via 4k.  I popped rendering to 1440p and DLSS to 4k and got 80 to 120 fps.  Max settings is gorgeous.

I am most excited to give Ragnarok a go on PC.  Sounds like they are putting in a lot of extra bells and whistles.  A 4070ti is no joke for ultra settings.  Based on gpu recommendations I don't think Ragnarok is going to be a straight ps5 port. 

I still think the best resolution is 1440p.  Plenty sharp but doesn't kill fps like 4k.  

And I can't say enough about 80 to 120 fps.  That shit is amazing.  

Yeah Avatar's jungle rendering with all the dense interactive vegetation looks terrific, it reminds me of playing Crysis and Uncharted back in the 7th gen, and being wowed by how how organic and detailed they were. (Okay maybe it's not quite as stunning as Crysis was, but it did give me similar vibes to the first time I saw Drake's Fortune in action back in the day)

And yeah the humans in Hellblade II are easily the best I've seen in any game. Really goes to show what current gen consoles can do when they're not committing half their horsepower just to get to 60fps.

I could even go further back to 6th gen when we got FarCry (The Crytek team made variant), how we went from bland and barren worlds with minimal foliage/shrubs like in Halo... To full, lush jungles where plants would move out of your way as you crawled through them.

We still haven't reached the point where foliage is rendered with the complexity and randomness of real plants, you can still tell they lack geometric detail, but the texture layering has gotten super good these days... What made Avatar really pop was the lighting and shadowing of the plants, you could tell during development that they wanted to nail that aspect... And they did.

I would argue it probably even made Crytek moist.

I think the next generation we may finally see large scale foliage with full subsurface scattering to really make the plant materials really showcase some realism.

Ratchet running pretty good on a 1060. All i'm saying is ps5 main benfits are resolution and frame rate which i appreciate but i do not feel like graphics have advanced much. Just use a simple google search and look up best looking games and many are ps4 games are on top of the lists. 

Watching hell blade 2 now if those garphics can me made into a cool open world then it would easily take the cake.

Honesly i don't see how anyone can watch this and not be blown away at the beauty.