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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Do you love or hate Baldaurs Gate 3 type CRPG's and why? (Poll)

 

Best game ...

Pillars of Eternity 2 Deadfire 0 0%
 
Divinity Original Sin 2 4 16.67%
 
Path Finder: Wrath of the Righteous 1 4.17%
 
Wasteland 3 0 0%
 
Disco Elysium 2 8.33%
 
Torment: Tides of Numenera 0 0%
 
Baldaurs Gate 3 8 33.33%
 
Dragon Age Inquisition 3 12.50%
 
Other in comments. 6 25.00%
 
Total:24

Not to be confused with the Diablo have and slash games, I don't think these count. I'm talking your Baldaurs gate, Divinity Original sin, Original Fallout series, Pillars of Eternity, Path Finder or even Disco Elysium or Torment: Tides of Nummanera and the like, detailed choice based role-playing games with isometric views and close to table top rules or elements. 

These games are very deep, very immersive and often very complex. I wanna know what others on here love most about these games. Is it the immersion? The choices, the pause/turn based and chance based combat, the way the stories are told, the loot, the worlds that require imagination and in that the roleplaying, a solitary DnD experience or something else. 

Tis genre has experienced a great rivial omso what is the big reason/s that you love this genre for the most for and why do you play these games? 

Personally, I love the immersion and getting lost in something big and grand with a feeling like what I do matters. The feeling of vastness but also the depth in a world I'm effecting on an adventure that lies ahead with seemingly infinite possibilities. I've yet to play Baldaurs gate 3 and I imagine this will be the best experience I'll ever have in gaming since Divinty OS2 is my 2nd favourite game of all time. I have to wait until Black Friday. Right now I can't hold my excitement, hence the thread. 

Last edited by LegitHyperbole - on 23 July 2024

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I tried both Divinity games since both of them score in the 90s in the Metacritic and couldnt finish either of them, I got bored. I really wasnt invested in the story, characters and general slow paced gameplay. So my first impression was that I didnt like them and for a time I thought that was always gonna be the case. 

But later I tried Baldurs Gate 3 and I had a blast. I wouldnt rank it amongst my favorite games ever, as many people do, but I definitely did enjoy it quite a lot. My issue with this type of games is simply a matter of time, theres too much content and I dont have the time to fully dedicate myself to it.



Yes, but only if they are turnbased like BG3, DOS and DOS2.



TheLegendaryBigBoss said:

Yes, but only if they are turnbased like BG3, DOS and DOS2.

Heads up, Path Finder wrath of the Righteous added a turn based mode since release. It's the most complex and confusing of them all but same as you, I wouldn't have played it without it. 



Jpcc86 said:

I tried both Divinity games since both of them score in the 90s in the Metacritic and couldnt finish either of them, I got bored. I really wasnt invested in the story, characters and general slow paced gameplay. So my first impression was that I didnt like them and for a time I thought that was always gonna be the case. 

But later I tried Baldurs Gate 3 and I had a blast. I wouldnt rank it amongst my favorite games ever, as many people do, but I definitely did enjoy it quite a lot. My issue with this type of games is simply a matter of time, theres too much content and I dont have the time to fully dedicate myself to it.

Not to mention fights can last like an hour at times and dialogue trees in a crowded area could take as long or longer but you can always quick save. It is indeed a genre that is difficult to keep focused on a game, really ease to fall off but with quick saves I find you can manage one and bite it of in nibbles. Alas, you don't get the same experience as you would getting sweaty with them. 



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I love CRPGs. That's what I grew up with along with computer strategy games that my dad would play. CRPGs are the closest you're gonna get to actual RPGs in the purest form that started with Dungeons & Dragons. Which is why quite a few of them are based within the world of D&D. Which, naturally this means it's meant to be played with a group of people rather than by yourself.

But being able to experience branching storylines that encourage multiple playthroughs, webs upon webs of choices/consequences (something most RPGs these days tend to severely lack) and being able to be fully immersed in the world is really what sets CRPGs apart.

Might and Magic and Ultima were a couple of the series I played the most. But my personal favorite (which is heresy to some purists) is Icewind Dale. Primarily because of its heavier emphasis on combat and is more enjoyable playing single player. Which was something I found myself doing quite a few times, so Icewind Dale was a series I spent the most time in.

But I also loved games like Star Wars KOTOR, Dragon Age, Fallout: New Vegas, because they were fundamentally CRPGs in a new camera angle.

Last edited by G2ThaUNiT - on 23 July 2024

G2ThaUNiT said:

I love CRPGs. That's what I grew up with along with computer strategy games that my dad would play. CRPGs are the closest you're gonna get to actual RPGs in the purest form that started with Dungeons & Dungeons. Which is why quite a few of them are based within the world of D&D. Which, naturally this means it's meant to be played with a group of people rather than by yourself.

But being able to experience branching storylines that encourage multiple playthroughs, webs upon webs of choices/consequences (something most RPGs these days tend to severely lack) and being able to be fully immersed in the world is really what sets CRPGs apart.

Might and Magic and Ultima were a couple of the series I played the most. But my personal favorite (which is heresy to some purists) is Icewind Dale. Primarily because of its heavier emphasis on combat and is more enjoyable playing single player. Which was something I found myself doing quite a few times, so Icewind Dale was a series I spent the most time in.

But I also loved games like Star Wars KOTOR, Dragon Age, Fallout: New Vegas, because they were fundamentally CRPGs in a new camera angle.

Exactly. I've never played DnD but from these games I can see why people love it so much and Yep, a new camera angle indeed but the same core genre. I fear for the future of Dragon age based on what they've shown us though of Veilgaurd and Fallout has gone to the dogs with F4 and the unmentionable one. I've heard rumors of a new KOTOR game though, It'd be great to see that come to fruition. I'd just love a remake/remaster so I can play it in full now as an adult. 



LegitHyperbole said:
G2ThaUNiT said:

I love CRPGs. That's what I grew up with along with computer strategy games that my dad would play. CRPGs are the closest you're gonna get to actual RPGs in the purest form that started with Dungeons & Dungeons. Which is why quite a few of them are based within the world of D&D. Which, naturally this means it's meant to be played with a group of people rather than by yourself.

But being able to experience branching storylines that encourage multiple playthroughs, webs upon webs of choices/consequences (something most RPGs these days tend to severely lack) and being able to be fully immersed in the world is really what sets CRPGs apart.

Might and Magic and Ultima were a couple of the series I played the most. But my personal favorite (which is heresy to some purists) is Icewind Dale. Primarily because of its heavier emphasis on combat and is more enjoyable playing single player. Which was something I found myself doing quite a few times, so Icewind Dale was a series I spent the most time in.

But I also loved games like Star Wars KOTOR, Dragon Age, Fallout: New Vegas, because they were fundamentally CRPGs in a new camera angle.

Exactly. I've never played DnD but from these games I can see why people love it so much and Yep, a new camera angle indeed but the same core genre. I fear for the future of Dragon age based on what they've shown us though of Veilgaurd and Fallout has gone to the dogs with F4 and the unmentionable one. I've heard rumors of a new KOTOR game though, It'd be great to see that come to fruition. I'd just love a remake/remaster so I can play it in full now as an adult. 

Same. BioWare and Bethesda just aren't the same as they used to be and have focused on a more casual experience that appeals to as large of an audience as possible. 

There was supposed to be a remake of KOTOR, which apparently still seems to be in development at Saber Interactive, but they were going to be modernizing the combat to be more in line with FF7 Remake. Which I guess is fine. It'll be flashier, but it removes the d20 D&D combat system the original had, which removes a big part of the CRPG experience. Every attack had a 20-sided dice constantly being rolled. But as long as the story is the same for the most part, I'm fine with it. Still one of the best stories in all of gaming!

One suggestion I have you can currently check out is Greedfall! It's Dragon's Age inspired in nature, and it has a sequel releasing in September. 

Another game that's releasing at some point in the future is The Wayward Realms. Being developed by 90s era Bethesda devs and are promising the game to be what made those early Elder Scrolls games special but fully realized than being held back by the technology of that time.



CRPGs are probably my favorite genre in all of gaming, ever since the golden 90s with Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape: Torment, all their sequels. There was also Neverwinter Nights, which wasn't quite the same, with its more action-oriented focus, but still a fantastic game. BG3 was ace, and I really love the Pathfinder games. I played through Kingmaker alone three times, and finished Wrath of the Righteous. The latter is probably the best CRPG of the past decade for me, along with BG3. I'm really happy that the genre is making a comeback; there's way too much action-RPG drivel with endless animations and effects, button-mashing, and shallow writing.

Edit; Oh, and by the way, I'm an old TTRPG nerd since around 1993, I've played a multitude of TTRPGs in the years since. I'm still playing Pathfinder now and then.



Why is DAI on the poll but not Dragon Age Origins the only good DA game? DAO is turn-based. Attacks only land based on dice roll. Also, I liked Divine Divinity which predates Original Sin. I do like Kingdoms of Amalur a lot. I like the occasional one. Tho JRPGs are more my thing and don't think that means all turn based. Genre began action and plenty are action. Tho I like many turn-based as well.



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