If Nintendo wanted to sell a $900 Switch 2, they could likely easily compete with a ROG Ally X and then some but there is not much of a market because the supposed "tech heads" in gaming are actually a tiny group of little nerds that can't afford to buy things like that, so it's a non-market basically. They make a lot of noise on the internet but in reality they're a tiny group of people. 

The Switch 2 obliterates the Switch 1 even undocked too, lets get real here. The Switch 2 is obviously better. Cyberpunk 2077 looks better than any Switch 1 game, I don't care if you run Switch 1 games on a 5000 dollar micro LED panel that is superior to OLED. The general public is loving the Switch 2 and for good reason ... it's pretty darn nice piece of hardware especially for that price point. Even Digital Foundry admits the hardware is quite good. 

Nintendo will offer a OLED Switch 2 most likely in a couple of years for $600 and then you'll have some group of babies crying about that price too and how they can't afford it. Like Nintendo needs to be a socialist grow-op that gives away goods for charity cases apparently. 

The people who think they're entitled to the world for $400 or so are going to be in for a reality check in the coming years also. For one they don't understand inflation (or any economics reality really) but secondly the era of massive subsidization of game hardware is over. Even Microsoft and Sony are not doing it much anymore either. PS5 Pro is expensive as hell. $400 doesn't get you shit anymore, what Nintendo is bringing to the table here for $450 is quite solid and not really matched by any other device in 2025. Certainly not size wise either, all of those other janky ass PC handhelds are like 2-3x the thickness, might as well carry a brick around in your coat pocket. They'd need to be on a 2nm or 3nm process to match the Switch 2's thickness which would make them even more expensive by a significant amount. 

Correct. And no one has said otherwise, Nintendo has access to the same mobile technology as any other PC OEM, so it goes without saying they COULD if they wanted, build a device that could compete on specs... But they didn't.

The market for devices with a higher performance ceiling than the Switch 2 is actually significant.
It's what the Xbox Series X, Playstation 5, Playstation 5 Pro and PC sell themselves on with 150~ million or more devices.

The Switch 2 has more performance than the Switch 1.
But if you value battery life and a high-quality screen, then it's a no-brainer to keep a Switch OLED around.
And I personally do still prefer my Switch OLED, especially as the Switch 1 has some of my favorite games on the console which absolutely look stunning on the OLED panel.

Plus I travel on planes a lot and the Switch 2 battery life isn't up for the task, it's a terrible handheld for that.

If you care about the visuals... Which I assume is super important to you, hence the mention of Cyberpunk 2077... Then obviously you would play it on another device where it looks better.

Digital Foundry also openly admits the screen on the Switch 2 is rather bad.

I hope so. I genuinely do. The terrible screen on the Switch 2 is the only reason I didn't bother selling my Switch OLED.

I don't personally care about the price, I do care about the quality of the hardware and the display quality is the biggest let down with the Switch 2, next to the poor battery life... But there is only so much Nintendo could do there with a crappy 8nm Samsung built chip.

Those issues will be resolved with an update to the console in a few years, so until then... I will likely stick to docked mode only with my Switch 2 console.

Let's not make excuses for billion dollar companies.

We are consumers, we should always expect better so we can get more for our dollar.

This is not the consumers problem.

Keep in mind that the Switch 2 is the Switch 1 successor, so it stands to reason it should be able to exceed the original Switch console in every aspect... But it simply doesn't.

The higher prices sucks. For all platforms.

Let's not make excuses for billion dollar companies, that doesn't help the consumer in the slightest.

Those PC handhelds are doing a lot more than the Switch.
And let's be honest, the Switch 2 isn't exactly a "pocketable" device either, making that point superfluous... But if portability is your concern, then it's even MORE of an excuse to keep a Switch OLED around as it's even more "pocketable" than a Switch 2.

Essentially any argument you put forth about buying a Switch 2 over the Rog Ally X... Can be the same excuse of buying a Switch OLED over a Switch 2.

Price: Switch OLED > Switch 2 > Rog Ally X.
Size: Switch OLED > Switch 2 > Rog Ally X.
Battery Life: Switch OLED > Switch 2 =/= Rog Ally X.

That is false, the Switch 2 doesn't need to be built at 2nm or 3nm, we need to remember how far behind Samsung is relative to TSMC.

Remember, Samsungs 8nm process is actually based on Samsungs 10nm process, even using TSMC's 7nm process would have provided significant performance and power saving improvements for the Tegra chip.

Even TSMC's 10nm process is better than Samsung 8nm process.

1.) I travel constantly for work, buh bye Switch OLED. After about 35 minutes of Mario Kart World (which looks great on the Switch 2 screen) was enough. Switch 1 is very long in the tooth and the difference in hardware is immediately evident and it's only going to get more evident, a display is not going to save that. I don't care if you slap a micro LED that's 100x the cost of an OLED onto a Switch 1. I know some people are going to desperately now try to push this "the screen isn't good!" narrative hard, but it's not going to work with the general gaming audience. I've played enough with the screen and the display is more than fine, the colors are bright and vivid and the screen size is very nice. That jump to 8 inches makes bigger scale games feel more epic. 

2.) The battery life on the Switch 2 is fine, it has no business actually having this battery life, Nintendo did some terrific customization on the chip side along with Nvidia, but really what janky ass planes these days don't have a USB power output (if not full blown power outlet)? The top USB Type C port makes charging the Switch 2 while played on a plane a breeze whereas Switch 1 was a pain in the ass. 

3.) I've never seen a Steam Deck or ROG Ally in public actually owned by an actual human person ever, and as I said I travel constantly, am in airports, etc. etc. I see the Switch constantly, I even had a airport security person remark about my Zelda limited edition Switch one time (lol). I think a big reason for this is the PC handhelds are not very portable friendly, being as thick as fat ass brick is a problem for these devices, no one wants to carry that shit around. 

4.) A ROG Ally X is NINE HUNDRED Dollars, lol. NINE HUNDRED. That's not a small difference. 900 is also consequently probably the sales number of the device, lmao. 

5.) Well that's the thing at 8nm, the Switch 2 is significantly smaller and thinner than a Steam Deck or regular ROG Ally, while producing better/similar performance at a fraction of the power needed too. That's impressive, even Digital Foundry says so. For a Steam Deck to be as thin as a Switch 2, it would have to be on a much better process than what they are on now, they can't even match up even though the Switch 2 is at 8nm and Steam Deck is what? 5nm or 6nm? lol, that's not an impressive plus for the PC handheld side.

I mean, when I directly compare my Switch OLED and my Switch 2 screens side by side the OLED clearly wins with its vibrant colors and deep blacks but just playing on Switch 2's screen looks ok to me. I really haven't noticed the ghosting that Digital Foundry mentioned; not saying it's not there, but I've played some Kart and a few arcade/console classics on there and they look fine.

Horses for courses.

Mario Kart world looks great on my TV, but that blurry LCD panel full of ghosting, poor colour, poor blacks... No thanks.
There is no getting around that the Switch 2's display is objectively bad in terms of quality.

You are correct the Switch 1's hardware is antiquated, but there is still tons of amazing games that run great on the hardware.

It does have all the business having that battery life.
But the battery life is not "fine". 2 hours is not "fine".

And you are correct, the planes I take tend not to have USB power output or any kind of power output... I am traveling to Central Australia and various minesites, not to a capital city in first class.

Many planes with USB also tend not to have high amperage USB which is means that charge rates won't keep up with the console anyway, especially if it's recharging an empty battery whilst runnig the console in tandem.

Anecdotal. Thus irrelevant.

If you are worried about portability, the Switch Lite is the best console for you... Actually I would argue the 3DS is the better device for that, crack it open, load up that homebrew.

The Switch 2 is $700 AUD.
The Switch Lite is $330 AUD.

If you actually genuinely gave a crap about price like you seem to do... Then you would be a Switch Lite-only owner as it's less than HALF the damn price.

When manufacturers build high-volume selling devices like phones for example... They source display panels from multiple manufacturers in order to alleviate supply chain issues.

Nintendo has always done this... For example on the Nintendo 3DS Nintendo would source Twisted Nematic or In-Plane Switching LCD panels, which is why some 3DS models had better viewing angles than others as Twisted Nematic is notorious for bad viewing angles and colour shift.

The Switch 2 is using In-Plane Switching, some panels will exhibit more ghosting than others... Whilst other panels will exhibit more IPS glow than others, it's the display lottery.

But even good IPS panels are pretty bad for gaming as they are a fairly high-latency display... I believe a better compromise would have been a VA panel, which have extremely good contrasts for an LCD and also tend to clock to high refresh rates which compensates for the ghosting.

But nothing tops an OLED, it's the best display technology currently... And regressing from that display on the Switch OLED to a cheap and nasty IPS panel in the Switch 2 is just not doing the hardware and games any favours... Games like Cyberpunk 2077 with it's high contrast areas, neon lights and more would look brilliant on an OLED panel.

The screen is a bit disappointing. I generally do not like when things get worse from previous hardware. Even if it might be seen as nitpicking, I will not upgrade unless I feel like everything is better. My switch OLED will still get playtime for a year or two.

Mario Kart World looks great on the Switch 2 screen, far better looking than any Switch 1 game, the two Zeldas (BOTW and TOTK) also immediately look better as well due to the resolution increase, and so does Super Mario Odyssey, and that's just the few games I tried. I don't think most people will notice ghosting at all, this is a nothing burger of the 10th degree, I've heard lots of people compliment the display if anything which is hilarious. And that's not even getting into things like significant frame rate/performance improvements for a lot of games also, the Switch 2 is the best version of the Switch 1 even with the current display. 

 Also funny here that devices like the Steam Deck and ROG Ally can have significantly less than 2 hours even. But if you don't have that then a battery pack is easy enough put into a back pack, again it's not like devices like the Steam Deck can run Cyberpunk 2077 at 40 fps with significantly better battery either. The Switch 2 having a significantly larger screen also makes table top mode in general more usable. I'd much rather have a Switch 2 on a flight than a Switch 1 (OLED or otherwise) and that gap is only going to get worse for the Switch 1 as the Switch 2 gets more and more games that the Switch 1 simply doesn't have like DK Bananza and Final Fantasy VII Remake and Elden Ring and etc. etc. etc. 

A $900 ROG Ally X gets barely moderately better performance than a Switch 2, not much better, a Switch 2 destroys a Switch 1 Lite. If the $900 ROG Ally X is such a great deal, how come it has sales numbers that would make a Wii U go "holy shit, that's bad". Obviously the value proposition for what that device provides is not evident to people. 

Pointing out the Switch 2 is way, way, way thinner than a Steam Deck or ROG Ally is a fair comment, see the double standards here? Any time a point is made (valid) that is in the Switch 2's favor it's immediately downplayed by the same folks, if the situation was reversed I'd pretty a pretty penny you'd be blowing a mountain of hot air about how the ROG Ally or Steam Deck is sooooo much thinner than the Switch 2 and how Nintendo cheaped out with a fat brick of a console and this and that. 

There are not many OLED displays mass produced in the 7-10 inch range and certainly not many in budget devices. There may be in the 6 inch size because those panels are made for phones in developing markets, but go into the tablet market and that pricing changes radically. Samsung makes AMOLED tablets for example but they are all pricey compared to their budget tablets. Again where was all the crying over Valve charging $150 more for the Steam Deck OLED? That's not a "just a few bucks more". That's a significant price increase. Pretty much all OLED tablets are expensive relative to the budget ones and OLEDs are extremely rare in the PC hybrid market, out of like 15 different models, there's like 1 (Steam Deck OLED) that has OLED, the rest are all LCD. If OLED is soooooo cheap, why isn't it being used by anyone else in the handheld hybrid space, where is the OLED display on Sony's PS5 controller w/screen device too (that's $200 for just a controller with a screen strapped on, no hardware behind it). 

For people who want that a Switch 2 OLED, you'll get it, and you can pay $600 for it too. Simple as that. Don't come crying when that happens because this is industry standard for OLED devices of virtually any kind over a certain size. Apple's OLED iPads that they only released after like 10 years of people asking for them still cost several hundreds of dollars more than their regular LCD iPads, Samsung's OLED tablets cost hundreds more than their comparable LCD variants, Steam Deck OLED costs $150 more. Very large OLED displays in tablet size devices (7+ inches) is still fairly rare and where they do exist they tend to be expensive. Clearly there is a significant pricing premium over LCD displays for OLED panels especially as you get out of the few sizes that are used for smartphones only. 

Just as an aside I've put the Switch 1 OLED and the Switch 2 side by side playing the same games (Mario Odyssey) ... lol there's no fucking chance the Switch OLED version is the better looking version of the game. No chance. Ditto for the Zelda games (BOTW/TOTK).

The resolution difference is immediately evident on the Switch 2 right off the bat. An OLED is not going to perform magic like making a lower resolution image look magically better. The Switch 2 screen doesn't look that far off from the OLED either, it's not like one looks 10x better than the other or some nonsense like that. Swinging the camera around Mario in the same spots the game is fine on both displays, if you're hoping to see like Game Boy style ghosting, lol you are going to be disappointed. I doubt very much a normal person will be able to spot any ghosting.

The Switch 2 display also seems a bit brighter on max brightness for both screens, for example in the opening area of Mario Odyssey with the gray grass/fog, the moon in the background has more noticeable detail on the Switch 2 screen and that's not just a resolution difference I think, it's literally a bit brighter of a display. Not sure if that's correct but Switch 2 seems to have a higher peak brightness than the OLED Switch (450 nits versus about 350 nits for OLED). 

Colors are a bit more saturated on the OLED as expected but they're not bad on the Switch 2 LCD, colorful games still pop nicely on the Switch 2 display. The screen size difference is huge, it makes playing more epic style games like Zelda: TOTK or even Mario Odyssey feel well "bigger".

But for people who want to push the "Switch 1 OLED is the best way to play Switch 1 games!" I think even that is clearly wrong. The performance (resolution/frame rate) upgrades the Switch 2 can offer can't be offset by an OLED display and it's immediately noticeable. Then on top of that the difference in screen size is also impossible to ignore, the Switch 2 is much nicer for "big" scale gaming.

Of course Nintendo is going to offer an OLED model, but I honestly am questioning how big of a deal that will be. The Switch 2 panel is better than the Switch 1 OG model, the gap in throwing an OLED on there isn't going to be that dramatic. Like really I would say really consider that if you're planning on missing out on like 2-3 years of gaming for a moderate bump in color saturation and better black levels while paying probably $150 more. It's entirely possible that Nintendo will offer a firmware update that allows the existing panel on the Switch 2 to consume a bit more power and mitigate the so-called ghosting issue, but I don't think most people can even tell as is and will never opt to use that option even if offered.

No, 800p. Get your facts straight!

Yes, there was. The Switch OLED released just a few months before the Steam Deck, so it was an important comparison point.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2022-steam-deck-review-a-handheld-pc-capable-of-console-quality-gaming

The audio-video experience offered by the handheld is both good and bad. Concerns were raised about the quality of the screen when the first hardware reviews emerged a couple of weeks back and the display does feel compromised. Colour reproduction, black levels and brightness are all average and the omission of variable refresh rate (VRR) is a missed opportunity for a system where so many games unlocked sit between 45-60fps. Sit Steam Deck side-by-side with Switch OLED and it's a night and day difference in favour of the Nintendo machine and I think I even prefer the original Switch LCD display.

https://www.ign.com/articles/steam-deck-review 

I have no complaints about the resolution – at this screen size there’s a diminishing return on packing in extra pixels. I have to say, though, that the OLED screen on the latest model of the Nintendo Switch has spoiled me on handheld screens, and the Steam Deck doesn't live up to the vibrance and clarity afforded by Nintendo's latest update.

And without the complaints of the tech reviewers and Steam Deck players, Valve probably wouldn't have switched to OLED that fast to fix it.

Lol, that's no where the hysterical crying by a small minority crowd over everything Switch 2 related. 

"The Switch OLED has spoiled me" is a tame statement, but even there I never recalled any big campaign of "don't buy a Steam Deck!!!!! The display is horribad!!!".

And also puhlease cut it out with the "Good guy Valve went running to OLED because of reviews because they're all in it for the gamer" bullshit. Valve switched to an OLED display because they saw Nintendo making a fortune off the Switch OLED model and saw an opportunity to upcharge people. And they charged out the ass for it too, $150 premium mainly for a screen upgrade and a moderate die shrink when Nintendo only charged $50 more for a bigger OLED screen + die shrink. Now when Nintendo does the same thing in a couple of years and charges $600 for Switch 2 OLED, the same babies are going to be working overtime to cry when they didn't utter a peep or maybe made a passing remark over the Steam Deck OLED.