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Biggerboat1 said:
Soundwave said:

Digital Foundry's final verdict is the system is very good.

Some of the immediate comments from Digital Foundry's comments section on Youtube I think are more in tune with the reality here:

The console isn’t perfect, but im loving it! The crazy thing is that when it comes to the screen its probably the best LCD screen ive ever seen, these colors POP almost as good as my steam deck OLED display. Id probably think it was OLED if it wasn’t for the absent inky blacks lol. 1080p, 120fps, vrr, its pretty future proofed. I haven’t noticed any of the “ghosting” that DF pointed out, and I tried looking for it.


@uradeutsch
20 minutes ago
the screen nonsense is entirely overblown..


@LocrianDorian
1 hour ago
I love my Switch 2, I've mostly been playing Switch 1 games on it to be honest because I have about 500 of them and half of them are unplayed. I haven't really noticed the ghosting, I think people are blowing it out of proportion. Not saying it is not an issue, but it really isn't something the average layman would notice.

Regular gamers are just going to see a bright, colorful screen that is most importantly very big and be happy with it, the screen stuff is such a nothing burger but I guess after the Switch 2's launch broke sales record, the people who were clinging to "$80 Mario Kart!" and "8nm!!!" had to go cling to their last resort. 

DF also admits not only is there 4K DLSS, but it's relatively cheap as well. 

The bruhaha over 8nm doesn't seem to have had the same impact because Nintendo optimized really well and it's a very custom design (even evident from the die shot xrays, it seems to be influenced by Ada Lovelace design), so you're getting still reasonable battery life and good end performance. 

Nintendo made a good system here, their best hardware day 1 since probably the GameCube. The "normal" core gamer is going to have a blast with this system, it's very powerful for a slim form factor and the net end performance (no matter how you get there) on a screen is better than things like a Steam Deck and trades blows with things like a wired Series S home console and a $700 ROG Ally that almost no one owns. 

For $450 there's nothing on the market today that's going to give you significantly better performance in a still mobile form factor (not to mention this is way slimmer than a Steam Deck or ROG Ally could dream of being with a bigger screen to boot). 

If they decide to make a Pro version of this some day that's going to be a beast of a system too. And Mario Kart is a blast, loving it, so many epic tracks. 

My only gripe with the hardware, and it's not really even that big of a gripe is the system feels a bit heavy. It's not really a big deal for an adult, but it could be a bit hard for the kiddos, but it does go to show that Nintendo is willing to make hardware more tailored for adults. This thing definitely does not feel like a toy at all, fairly premium feeling all around. 

Painting everyone who has any criticism of S2 as a bad-faith Nintendo hater is kinda lame.

I've owned 1 Sony console, 1 Xbox & 6 Nintendo.

I'll inevitably grab a S2 at some stage because I love the games but that doesn't mean I have to celebrate every decision the company makes.

Digital Foundry also said that the display is disappointing, so using them as the the authority backs up the detractors as much as the supporters...

And the S2 trading blows with a Series S & a ROG Ally is in part due to devs putting in a lot of extra effort with the ports.

If the same TLC was put into those systems we'd potentially have a different story.

We've kinda all just accepted that it's fine that a major component in the S2 is a significant regression from the latest model of its predecessor, I'm not sure many other companies would be receiving that charitable a reaction.

The early rationale was that they'd at least gone with a very good LCD, this has not proven to be the case.

We don't shy away from criticizing Nvidia or Apple for getting greedy & Nintendo shouldn't get a pass either.

Actually tons of companies get a "pass". 

The OG Steam Deck's display wasn't anything special and only 720p ... was there a bunch of crying about that? No, there wasn't. 

OLED displays even in high end devices (especially tablet size devices) is actually not still common even now. Where is the OLED display on the $900 ROG Ally X? Not there. Virtually none of these expensive PC hybrids have an OLED display. Legion Go? Nope LCD. If OLED is only a "little more expensive maybe" then how come the Steam Deck OLED is a whopping $150 more? Was there a ton of crying about Steam Deck OLED carrying such a premium in pricing? Nope. 

Like I saw some people trying to push faux outrage over the Switch 2 screen "only being about 450 nits". So you mean like about the same as a ROG Ally? They convientantly of course didn't mention that part. 

A lot of these whiny babies on the internet would've shit their pants if the Switch 2 was $600 if Nintendo went that route as the Steam Deck OLED is. 

A XBox Series S is WIRED to a freaking power outlet and is not even remotely close to being portable. 

There isn't a hardware on the market that gives Switch 2 performance in a hybrid form factor with an 8 inch screen for $450 right now. This isn't some cheapo POS that Nintendo just farted out, yes you can get better performance perhaps from a ROG Ally X, but that's $900 freaking dollars and also far bulkier and less portable than a Switch 2 to boot. 

There's a lot of selective outrage around the Switch 2 in part because a lot of the whiny minority of the deep recesses of the internet has gotten burned trying to down talk the system (Switch 1 also) and gotten slapped in the face by it's overwhelming market success. There's also the hipster doofus "know it all gamer" who thinks they know everything about Nintendo when they actually don't even understand Nintendo has a completely different board of directors today from 10-15 years ago. But these genius' think they know everything about Nintendo and make guarantees about things, and when it turns out actually some of that isn't true at all they also take offense and then double down on other dumb opinions. You're dealing with a mish mash of these folks who also don't understand they are a tiny, tiny minority (zero self awareness). 

Like where are all these devices then with better than Steam Deck performance, with an 8 inch OLED display, wireless controllers, TV dock included for even $500? There's nothing and there's definitely nothing remotely as portable as the Switch 2 either, those other devices need double, triple the thickness to generate their performance, if you wanted a form factor about the same, you'd probably have to pay double+ on top of that. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 29 June 2025