Pemalite said:
Soundwave said:
1.) I travel constantly for work, buh bye Switch OLED. After about 35 minutes of Mario Kart World (which looks great on the Switch 2 screen) was enough. Switch 1 is very long in the tooth and the difference in hardware is immediately evident and it's only going to get more evident, a display is not going to save that. I don't care if you slap a micro LED that's 100x the cost of an OLED onto a Switch 1. I know some people are going to desperately now try to push this "the screen isn't good!" narrative hard, but it's not going to work with the general gaming audience. I've played enough with the screen and the display is more than fine, the colors are bright and vivid and the screen size is very nice. That jump to 8 inches makes bigger scale games feel more epic.Â
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Horses for courses.
Mario Kart world looks great on my TV, but that blurry LCD panel full of ghosting, poor colour, poor blacks... No thanks.
There is no getting around that the Switch 2's display is objectively bad in terms of quality.
You are correct the Switch 1's hardware is antiquated, but there is still tons of amazing games that run great on the hardware.
Soundwave said:
2.) The battery life on the Switch 2 is fine, it has no business actually having this battery life, Nintendo did some terrific customization on the chip side along with Nvidia, but really what janky ass planes these days don't have a USB power output (if not full blown power outlet)? The top USB Type C port makes charging the Switch 2 while played on a plane a breeze whereas Switch 1 was a pain in the ass.Â
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It does have all the business having that battery life.
But the battery life is not "fine". 2 hours is not "fine".
And you are correct, the planes I take tend not to have USB power output or any kind of power output... I am traveling to Central Australia and various minesites, not to a capital city in first class.
Many planes with USB also tend not to have high amperage USB which is means that charge rates won't keep up with the console anyway, especially if it's recharging an empty battery whilst runnig the console in tandem.
Soundwave said:
3.) I've never seen a Steam Deck or ROG Ally in public actually owned by an actual human person ever, and as I said I travel constantly, am in airports, etc. etc. I see the Switch constantly, I even had a airport security person remark about my Zelda limited edition Switch one time (lol). I think a big reason for this is the PC handhelds are not very portable friendly, being as thick as fat ass brick is a problem for these devices, no one wants to carry that shit around.Â
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Anecdotal. Thus irrelevant.
If you are worried about portability, the Switch Lite is the best console for you... Actually I would argue the 3DS is the better device for that, crack it open, load up that homebrew.
Soundwave said:
4.) A ROG Ally X is NINE HUNDRED Dollars, lol. NINE HUNDRED. That's not a small difference. 900 is also consequently probably the sales number of the device, lmao.Â
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The Switch 2 is $700 AUD.
The Switch Lite is $330 AUD.
If you actually genuinely gave a crap about price like you seem to do... Then you would be a Switch Lite-only owner as it's less than HALF the damn price.
archbrix said:
I mean, when I directly compare my Switch OLED and my Switch 2 screens side by side the OLED clearly wins with its vibrant colors and deep blacks but just playing on Switch 2's screen looks ok to me. I really haven't noticed the ghosting that Digital Foundry mentioned; not saying it's not there, but I've played some Kart and a few arcade/console classics on there and they look fine.
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When manufacturers build high-volume selling devices like phones for example... They source display panels from multiple manufacturers in order to alleviate supply chain issues.
Nintendo has always done this... For example on the Nintendo 3DS Nintendo would source Twisted Nematic or In-Plane Switching LCD panels, which is why some 3DS models had better viewing angles than others as Twisted Nematic is notorious for bad viewing angles and colour shift.
The Switch 2 is using In-Plane Switching, some panels will exhibit more ghosting than others... Whilst other panels will exhibit more IPS glow than others, it's the display lottery.
But even good IPS panels are pretty bad for gaming as they are a fairly high-latency display... I believe a better compromise would have been a VA panel, which have extremely good contrasts for an LCD and also tend to clock to high refresh rates which compensates for the ghosting.
But nothing tops an OLED, it's the best display technology currently... And regressing from that display on the Switch OLED to a cheap and nasty IPS panel in the Switch 2 is just not doing the hardware and games any favours... Games like Cyberpunk 2077 with it's high contrast areas, neon lights and more would look brilliant on an OLED panel.
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Mario Kart World looks great on the Switch 2 screen, far better looking than any Switch 1 game, the two Zeldas (BOTW and TOTK) also immediately look better as well due to the resolution increase, and so does Super Mario Odyssey, and that's just the few games I tried. I don't think most people will notice ghosting at all, this is a nothing burger of the 10th degree, I've heard lots of people compliment the display if anything which is hilarious. And that's not even getting into things like significant frame rate/performance improvements for a lot of games also, the Switch 2 is the best version of the Switch 1 even with the current display.
Also funny here that devices like the Steam Deck and ROG Ally can have significantly less than 2 hours even. But if you don't have that then a battery pack is easy enough put into a back pack, again it's not like devices like the Steam Deck can run Cyberpunk 2077 at 40 fps with significantly better battery either. The Switch 2 having a significantly larger screen also makes table top mode in general more usable. I'd much rather have a Switch 2 on a flight than a Switch 1 (OLED or otherwise) and that gap is only going to get worse for the Switch 1 as the Switch 2 gets more and more games that the Switch 1 simply doesn't have like DK Bananza and Final Fantasy VII Remake and Elden Ring and etc. etc. etc.
A $900 ROG Ally X gets barely moderately better performance than a Switch 2, not much better, a Switch 2 destroys a Switch 1 Lite. If the $900 ROG Ally X is such a great deal, how come it has sales numbers that would make a Wii U go "holy shit, that's bad". Obviously the value proposition for what that device provides is not evident to people.
Pointing out the Switch 2 is way, way, way thinner than a Steam Deck or ROG Ally is a fair comment, see the double standards here? Any time a point is made (valid) that is in the Switch 2's favor it's immediately downplayed by the same folks, if the situation was reversed I'd pretty a pretty penny you'd be blowing a mountain of hot air about how the ROG Ally or Steam Deck is sooooo much thinner than the Switch 2 and how Nintendo cheaped out with a fat brick of a console and this and that.
There are not many OLED displays mass produced in the 7-10 inch range and certainly not many in budget devices. There may be in the 6 inch size because those panels are made for phones in developing markets, but go into the tablet market and that pricing changes radically. Samsung makes AMOLED tablets for example but they are all pricey compared to their budget tablets. Again where was all the crying over Valve charging $150 more for the Steam Deck OLED? That's not a "just a few bucks more". That's a significant price increase. Pretty much all OLED tablets are expensive relative to the budget ones and OLEDs are extremely rare in the PC hybrid market, out of like 15 different models, there's like 1 (Steam Deck OLED) that has OLED, the rest are all LCD. If OLED is soooooo cheap, why isn't it being used by anyone else in the handheld hybrid space, where is the OLED display on Sony's PS5 controller w/screen device too (that's $200 for just a controller with a screen strapped on, no hardware behind it).
For people who want that a Switch 2 OLED, you'll get it, and you can pay $600 for it too. Simple as that. Don't come crying when that happens because this is industry standard for OLED devices of virtually any kind over a certain size. Apple's OLED iPads that they only released after like 10 years of people asking for them still cost several hundreds of dollars more than their regular LCD iPads, Samsung's OLED tablets cost hundreds more than their comparable LCD variants, Steam Deck OLED costs $150 more. Very large OLED displays in tablet size devices (7+ inches) is still fairly rare and where they do exist they tend to be expensive. Clearly there is a significant pricing premium over LCD displays for OLED panels especially as you get out of the few sizes that are used for smartphones only.
Last edited by Soundwave - on 30 June 2025
