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Forums - Sales Discussion - Clash of the October 20th titans: Which will sell more, Mario Wonder or Spiderman 2?

 

Which will sell more?

Super Mario Bros Wonder 126 84.56%
 
Spiderman 2 23 15.44%
 
Total:149
RolStoppable said:
Chrkeller said:

Person A thought spider 2 would sell more than Mario Wonder.  He was wrong.  So persons B, C and D are demanding blood of his first born.  

Yeah... no. Your first sentence is correct, but then you are off base.

Person A thought Spider-Man 2 would sell more for sure. When initial sales data came in, person A immediately claimed victory only to be proven wrong with later data. Since then person A has been unable to take the loss and has kept bumping this thread every time favorable data for their case has come in, only to be proven wrong again by additional data.

It's such blatant trolling that I do wonder why you still haven't picked up on this.

Social networks work like this:

About 2 weeks ago on redit someone said they were closing Tango because the founder had left. And in an instant it goes viral.

Yun Watanabe (award-winning cinematics director on multiple AAA games) writes on Twitter that this is absolutely false.

They respond that what do you know, that you are lying, that you dedicate yourself to doing your job, that you don't say any more nonsense because you have already covered your quota...

Yun tells them that I worked there.

They respond with more idiocies, insults and accusations.

I have given an example of trolls attacking directly, but normally trolls attack in a subtle way.

The result is that people who tell interesting things don't do it. And the networks are filled with a cacophony of nonsense and news without substance.

This is something that happens everywhere. I wonder why the moderators don't take action.



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Chrkeller said:
CourageTCD said:

Could someoney please summurize this whole heated discussion that lingers here in this forum?

Person A thought spider 2 would sell more than Mario Wonder.  He was wrong.  So persons B, C and D are demanding blood of his first born.  

I just read through this whole thread, and you couldn't be more wrong.
Several people predicted Spiderman 2 would win 'long-term' in the opening page. People disagreed, but nobody has been been giving them shit because they simply made a prediction. This Zeldaring guy, constantly bumped this thread proclaiming himself unequivocally correct on scant or even no evidence. Of course, people are gonna call him out every time he does it. He invites such treatment by taunting those who disagreed with him.



psychicscubadiver said:
Chrkeller said:

Person A thought spider 2 would sell more than Mario Wonder.  He was wrong.  So persons B, C and D are demanding blood of his first born.  

I just read through this whole thread, and you couldn't be more wrong.
Several people predicted Spiderman 2 would win 'long-term' in the opening page. People disagreed, but nobody has been been giving them shit because they simply made a prediction. This Zeldaring guy, constantly bumped this thread proclaiming himself unequivocally correct on scant or even no evidence. Of course, people are gonna call him out every time he does it. He invites such treatment by taunting those who disagreed with him.

Sure.  Because claiming someone has a neurological impairment and people agreeing with said personal attack definitely isn't trolling.  Zelda is the only culprit.  



Chrkeller said:

The OP is entitled to his view and positions.  However I don't blindly follow just because someone said so.  For me sales are sales.  PC sales could be big and are important.  But if others want to ignore it, good for them?

This is just how prediction threads work. It's not like anyone would ignore PC sales in a financial thread just because once upon a time there was a prediction thread that concerned only the PS5 version.

There's a difference between blindly following and honoring the rules of a game.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

Chrkeller said:
psychicscubadiver said:

I just read through this whole thread, and you couldn't be more wrong.
Several people predicted Spiderman 2 would win 'long-term' in the opening page. People disagreed, but nobody has been been giving them shit because they simply made a prediction. This Zeldaring guy, constantly bumped this thread proclaiming himself unequivocally correct on scant or even no evidence. Of course, people are gonna call him out every time he does it. He invites such treatment by taunting those who disagreed with him.

Sure.  Because claiming someone has a neurological impairment and people agreeing with said personal attack definitely isn't trolling.  Zelda is the only culprit.  

Amazingly, that's also wrong.
"Barring zeldaring having a learning disability or neurological impairment ( at which point, okay he struggles with social interactions etc), he's got to be just a troll, if he isn't either of those, mercy he's a supremely arrogant narcissist,"
The worst implication you can take from this is a that maybe Zeldaring has a neurological impairment as a way to explain months of antisocial behavior. Not to mention that one person suggesting that might be the case when both they (and I) clearly believe he's just a troll, provoking people deliberately, is far cry from 'Person B, C, and D demanding the blood of his firstborn'. Zeldaring is constantly the one who bumps the thread and antagonizes people. If a thread would be drama-free by removing a single person, then, yeah that person is to blame for the drama.



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psychicscubadiver said:
Chrkeller said:

Sure.  Because claiming someone has a neurological impairment and people agreeing with said personal attack definitely isn't trolling.  Zelda is the only culprit.  

Amazingly, that's also wrong.
"Barring zeldaring having a learning disability or neurological impairment ( at which point, okay he struggles with social interactions etc), he's got to be just a troll, if he isn't either of those, mercy he's a supremely arrogant narcissist,"
The worst implication you can take from this is a that maybe Zeldaring has a neurological impairment as a way to explain months of antisocial behavior. Not to mention that one person suggesting that might be the case when both they (and I) clearly believe he's just a troll, provoking people deliberately, is far cry from 'Person B, C, and D demanding the blood of his firstborn'. Zeldaring is constantly the one who bumps the thread and antagonizes people. If a thread would be drama-free by removing a single person, then, yeah that person is to blame for the drama.

You can spin it all you want, but the entire post was a personal attack, and everyone was ok with it.  

Personally, I like Zeldaring's posts.  He views things from a different perspective which is a welcome (for me) given the sea of sameness we usually see.  

But hey, to each their own.  

And I get a large portion of Zeldaring's point....  Wonder didn't sell what most people thought it would.  Makes me wonder (pun in intended) how long it will be before we see another 2D Mario.  



Chrkeller said:
psychicscubadiver said:

Amazingly, that's also wrong.
"Barring zeldaring having a learning disability or neurological impairment ( at which point, okay he struggles with social interactions etc), he's got to be just a troll, if he isn't either of those, mercy he's a supremely arrogant narcissist,"
The worst implication you can take from this is a that maybe Zeldaring has a neurological impairment as a way to explain months of antisocial behavior. Not to mention that one person suggesting that might be the case when both they (and I) clearly believe he's just a troll, provoking people deliberately, is far cry from 'Person B, C, and D demanding the blood of his firstborn'. Zeldaring is constantly the one who bumps the thread and antagonizes people. If a thread would be drama-free by removing a single person, then, yeah that person is to blame for the drama.

You can spin it all you want, but the entire post was a personal attack, and everyone was ok with it.  

Personally, I like Zeldaring's posts.  He views things from a different perspective which is a welcome (for me) given the sea of sameness we usually see.  

But hey, to each their own.  

And I get a large portion of Zeldaring's point....  Wonder didn't sell what most people thought it would.  Makes me wonder (pun in intended) how long it will be before we see another 2D Mario.  

The thing i wouldn't even be in this thread if so many weren't attacking my prediction. like i had to argue with so many cause of my prediction that mario wonder won't be the next mario kart or the next coming that it's nice to be spot on with my analysis we are already seeing it with TOTK that end of the life cycle legs arent gonna be the same and now wonder is starting to fall off. 



curl-6 said:

Latest numbers have Spiderman at 11 million as of the 20th of April:

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/461156/marvels-spider-man-2-sales-top-11-million-units/

And Mario Wonder at 13.44 million shipped as of March 31st, three weeks prior:

https://www.vgchartz.com/article/460888/switch-ships-14132-million-units-as-of-march-2024/

Spiderman was at 10 million on the 4th of Feb, so it sold 1 million in two months and 16 days.

Mario went from 11.96 million to 13.44 shipped in three months, an additional 1.48 million.

Closer race than I expected. Seems like you were right when you made this thread 

I can even see Spider 2 outselling Wonder now, if Sony releases it on PC and decrease the price like they generally do in late generation 

The problem is once it gets a PC release we no longer will see PS5 version sales only but alas, it will certainly mover over 15m copies there



@Chrkeller You get his point because you are also a Nintendo troll lol. How you can completely bypass this dude's action and point is too funny. His point is simply I got it wrong after gloating and having a victory lap, now I need to target all those that picked Mario at a huge margin. Then act like a victim when everyone critizes me for my actions. You claiming this dude is being ganged up on his hilarious, when this dude bumps this thread everytime to save face.

@zeldaring That is absolutely not true. No one called you to this thread. You gladly showed up. Nothing was wrong with your prediction, some people diasagreed with your logic about how you got there but your prediction is your prediction. Your history of Nintendo downplay doesn't help either. Its how you behaved after that gets you this treatment. You did a full victory lap about being right and after data came in you were wrong. So to save face, you moved the goalpost to if Mario doesn't sell 30 million then you are right. We aren't blind we see it and you don't get to tell me that everyone thought Mario would do and Mario would win. We all can see on the first pages of several people picking Spiderman along with people thinking it would be close. You get this energy from all the gloating and thread bumping when you thought you were right. You also continue to do it based off Mario not selling 30 million, which isn't even decided yet lol.

Last edited by Phenomajp13 - on 30 May 2024

Phenomajp13 said:

@Chrkeller You get his point because you are also a Nintendo troll lol. How you can completely bypass this dude's action and point is too funny. His point is simply I got it wrong after gloating and having a victory lap, now I need to target all those that picked Mario at a huge margin. Then act like a victim when everyone critizes me for my actions. You claiming this dude is being ganged up on his hilarious, when this dude bumps this thread everytime to save face.

Nintendo troll?  Nintendo is my favorite developer and zelda is my all time favorite franchise.  I have three switch units in the house.  Lol.