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Forums - Sales - PS5 Ships 41.7 Million Units as of June 2023

zeldaring on 10 August 2023
Slownenberg said:

I'm guessing Sony made the mistake of taking their phenomenal winter numbers this year and thinking they could hold those sorts of numbers beyond that. But of course this past winter is when Sony finally ended stock shortages and flooded the market with PS5s so there was two years of pent up demand that scooped up all those systems. That pent up demand was satiated after that quarter so now they are back to 'normal' Playstation numbers (~20m peak years) but Sony thought they were about to have a year like they've never had before because of that one quarter of pent up demand.

Going into this fiscal year PS5 had a one-off amazing quarter while Switch had a weak quarter. Sony's pent up demand was satisfied while Switch then got double boosted from Mario movie and TotK. Now we are looking at a situation in which Sony likely massively overestimated what they can sell this year while Nintendo likely somewhat understimated what they will sell this year. They forecasted 15m and 25m but they'll probably end up around 16m and 20m.

Though Sony is apparently willing to get aggressive, even early in the lifecycle, on stuff like price cuts, which Nintendo hasn't even bothered with after 6+ years. But PS5 is gonna need those price cuts to even hit 20m. Seeing as how they are getting aggressive about pushing systems and not worrying about profit as much I think Sony can sell 20 or 21m this year. I'm guessing PS5 will have big discounts for the holidays.

What happened to switch was the result of the fed rising inflation through the roof with money printing. Ps4 got a huge boost end of cyle and switch was in its mid cycle got a massive boost that lasted much longer cause it was in its prime.



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kazuyamishima on 10 August 2023
Slownenberg said:

I'm guessing Sony made the mistake of taking their phenomenal winter numbers this year and thinking they could hold those sorts of numbers beyond that. But of course this past winter is when Sony finally ended stock shortages and flooded the market with PS5s so there was two years of pent up demand that scooped up all those systems. That pent up demand was satiated after that quarter so now they are back to 'normal' Playstation numbers (~20m peak years) but Sony thought they were about to have a year like they've never had before because of that one quarter of pent up demand.

Going into this fiscal year PS5 had a one-off amazing quarter while Switch had a weak quarter. Sony's pent up demand was satisfied while Switch then got double boosted from Mario movie and TotK. Now we are looking at a situation in which Sony likely massively overestimated what they can sell this year while Nintendo likely somewhat understimated what they will sell this year. They forecasted 15m and 25m but they'll probably end up around 16m and 20m.

Though Sony is apparently willing to get aggressive, even early in the lifecycle, on stuff like price cuts, which Nintendo hasn't even bothered with after 6+ years. But PS5 is gonna need those price cuts to even hit 20m. Seeing as how they are getting aggressive about pushing systems and not worrying about profit as much I think Sony can sell 20 or 21m this year. I'm guessing PS5 will have big discounts for the holidays.

After 23 months, the PS4 was reduced to a permanent price of $349 back in October 2015 (launch price of $399), the Slim version was launched at $299 on September 2016.

After 30 months (2 years and 6 months), Nintendo released the Switch Lite at $199.

After 31 months, Sony finally decided to do a temporary price cut of the Disc Version in Europe (the only region where they are behind launch aligned with the PS4), and one month later in the US, UK and Germany.

As I mentioned before, the system is tracking 0.03m ahead of the Switch Launch Aligned with a high price point of $499 and the last first party game that sony released was GOW: Ragnarok back in November (and a cross-gen game).

I think they'll be fine.



Kyuu on 17 August 2023

So PS5 had a crazy first half in Germany. Outselling all platforms combined from last year over the same period:

Are these in dollar or unit sales?



DonFerrari on 17 August 2023
Kyuu said:

So PS5 had a crazy first half in Germany. Outselling all platforms combined from last year over the same period:

Are these in dollar or unit sales?

That is great numbers.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

kazuyamishima on 17 August 2023
Kyuu said:

So PS5 had a crazy first half in Germany. Outselling all platforms combined from last year over the same period:

Are these in dollar or unit sales?

It’s revenue, that’s why the Switch is Up YoY, possible more OLED’s sold than last year. 



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RolStoppable on 17 August 2023
Kyuu said:

So PS5 had a crazy first half in Germany. Outselling all platforms combined from last year over the same period:

Are these in dollar or unit sales?

The bar graph is revenue, but the tweet/article also mentions that the PS5 sold three times as many units year over year.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

Kyuu on 18 August 2023

So then last year's numbers in Germany were less like the UK and more in line with the rest of Europe where PS5 performed poorly. Makes more sense than PS5 outselling last year's platforms combined in units lol. A strong result still.



DonFerrari on 18 August 2023
Kyuu said:

So then last year's numbers in Germany were less like the UK and more in line with the rest of Europe where PS5 performed poorly. Makes more sense than PS5 outselling last year's platforms combined in units lol. A strong result still.

But this year number have PS5 outselling also all combined last year, and also current year.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Kyuu on 18 August 2023
DonFerrari said:
Kyuu said:

So then last year's numbers in Germany were less like the UK and more in line with the rest of Europe where PS5 performed poorly. Makes more sense than PS5 outselling last year's platforms combined in units lol. A strong result still.

But this year number have PS5 outselling also all combined last year, and also current year.

It outsold them combined (including the PS5) in revenue/dollar-sale, not unit sale. PS5's average price is higher this year vs a year ago (the €50 increase took effect in August) and is also much higher than the average Switch and Xbox Series price.



DonFerrari on 18 August 2023
Kyuu said:
DonFerrari said:

But this year number have PS5 outselling also all combined last year, and also current year.

It outsold them combined (including the PS5) in revenue/dollar-sale, not unit sale. PS5's average price is higher this year vs a year ago (the €50 increase took effect in August) and is also much higher than the average Switch and Xbox Series price.

Still that is a very big number that only having PS5 weak last year doesn't cover.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."