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MS should apologise to the world.
1) Kotick stays in power

2) Nintendo dont get CoD

3) Nvidia dont get MS games

4) Those Streaming services that were promised 10 years of MS games.

5) No CoD parity (Sony will continue to butcher content from others)

6) ABK games not coming to GP.

CMA protected the people.



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CloudxTifa said:

Thats what happens when you own something.......



Azzanation said:

MS should apologise to the world.
1) Kotick stays in power

2) Nintendo dont get CoD

3) Nvidia dont get MS games

4) Those Streaming services that were promised 10 years of MS games.

5) No CoD parity (Sony will continue to butcher content from others)

6) ABK games not coming to GP.

CMA protected the people.

All these things can be done right now by MS and Activision without MS buying Activision, these are not dependent on it.



Hmm, pie.

The Fury said:
Azzanation said:

MS should apologise to the world.
1) Kotick stays in power

2) Nintendo dont get CoD

3) Nvidia dont get MS games

4) Those Streaming services that were promised 10 years of MS games.

5) No CoD parity (Sony will continue to butcher content from others)

6) ABK games not coming to GP.

CMA protected the people.

All these things can be done right now by MS and Activision without MS buying Activision, these are not dependent on it.

Without reason, it wont happen.



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Azzanation said:
The Fury said:

All these things can be done right now by MS and Activision without MS buying Activision, these are not dependent on it.

Without reason, it wont happen.

And MS spending $69billion is the reason?

Not the issues Activision had and the loss in stock value Kotick has overseen as the reason he should be got rid of.

Not the fact that Activision could add CoD to Nintendo to make more money, they love money.

Nvidia deal to get MS games, MS has games right? They could just add their games.

Activision CoD deal with Sony has existed for a while, Activision can end that and accept a new deal or none or an MS deal, like they used to do.

Activision can do a deal with MS to add their games to GP right now, you know, for MS to benefit from those games being on GP and Activision to make money from the deal.

Nah, what am I on about. MS needs to spend $69billion to buy Activision for both companies to do any of this.



Hmm, pie.

The Fury said:
Azzanation said:

Without reason, it wont happen.

And MS spending $69billion is the reason?

Not the issues Activision had and the loss in stock value Kotick has overseen as the reason he should be got rid of.

Not the fact that Activision could add CoD to Nintendo to make more money, they love money.

Nvidia deal to get MS games, MS has games right? They could just add their games.

Activision CoD deal with Sony has existed for a while, Activision can end that and accept a new deal or none or an MS deal, like they used to do.

Activision can do a deal with MS to add their games to GP right now, you know, for MS to benefit from those games being on GP and Activision to make money from the deal.

Nah, what am I on about. MS needs to spend $69billion to buy Activision for both companies to do any of this.

$68.7billion is MS's money and can do what they want with it. And that's buying ABK, now they will buy someone else instead.

Kotick is the reason ABK is valued at $68.7billion. They won't sack him. They have to wait for him to walk.

ABK have deals with Sony (Maybe Sony said no Nintendo versions in said contracts)

MS need reason to add games on rival platforms (Thank god you are not a businessmen) 

You can't just end deals for another without destroying the relationship. ABK are stuck with dealing with the market leader to maximize profit. Only way around that is if someone else brought them out.

ABK cant do a deal with MS if they already have deals in place with Sony.

Nice try though.



Azzanation said:

$68.7billion is MS's money and can do what they want with it. And that's buying ABK, now they will buy someone else instead.

Kotick is the reason ABK is valued at $68.7billion. They won't sack him. They have to wait for him to walk.

ABK have deals with Sony (Maybe Sony said no Nintendo versions in said contracts)

MS need reason to add games on rival platforms (Thank god you are not a businessmen) 

You can't just end deals for another without destroying the relationship. ABK are stuck with dealing with the market leader to maximize profit. Only way around that is if someone else brought them out.

ABK cant do a deal with MS if they already have deals in place with Sony.

Nice try though.

Correct, never said it wasn't their money. But it's not the reason for all those not being able to be done now.

They won't sack him, but should.

ABK decide who gets the deal, not Sony, it's their decision to accept. Activision controls where their games go, not Sony, stop stretching.

MS have no reason to add games anywhere but their platforms but the buy out is no reason why their (or Activisions) can't be on NVidia, considering MS are happy for their games to be on Steam already. MS could still do a deal with NVidia to bring their games to the streaming, considering the Nvidia Now does not care where you buy the games, only that you own them already. MS already has the money from the sale of the game.

Activision accepted the deal. They can also not renew it when the terms ends or even end it early and pay Sony off with compensation if it's hindering their profitability so much. Maybe strike up a new deal with MS, seems to be what you are hinting right?

Thanks, you too.



Hmm, pie.

The Fury said:

Correct, never said it wasn't their money. But it's not the reason for all those not being able to be done now.

They won't sack him, but should.

ABK decide who gets the deal, not Sony, it's their decision to accept. Activision controls where their games go, not Sony, stop stretching.

MS have no reason to add games anywhere but their platforms but the buy out is no reason why their (or Activisions) can't be on NVidia, considering MS are happy for their games to be on Steam already. MS could still do a deal with NVidia to bring their games to the streaming, considering the Nvidia Now does not care where you buy the games, only that you own them already. MS already has the money from the sale of the game.

Activision accepted the deal. They can also not renew it when the terms ends or even end it early and pay Sony off with compensation if it's hindering their profitability so much. Maybe strike up a new deal with MS, seems to be what you are hinting right?

Thanks, you too.

You fail to see the logic behind this. Sony is the market leader, its where ABK make alot of their profits on. Sony has alot of pull behind these 3rd party contracts. Thats the power of being market leader.

MS are releasing their games on as many devices as possible. Cant say ABK will put CoD on Nintendo now due to whatever deals they have in place already are possibly stopping it from happening. MS would have pushed that if they had it their way.

ABK have to follow where the money is, they have to please shareholders, they cant just deny a deal that will lose them money. 



Azzanation said:

You fail to see the logic behind this. Sony is the market leader, its where ABK make alot of their profits on. Sony has alot of pull behind these 3rd party contracts. Thats the power of being market leader.

MS are releasing their games on as many devices as possible. Cant say ABK will put CoD on Nintendo now due to whatever deals they have in place already are possibly stopping it from happening. MS would have pushed that if they had it their way.

ABK have to follow where the money is, they have to please shareholders, they cant just deny a deal that will lose them money. 

I see it fine.

$$$ to be made. ABK do go where the money is. MS is the richer of the players here, time to ditch Sony's ever so important market share and take the big bucks from MS for their main sponsor for CoD, heck all their games. I mean, I hear they might have a spare $69billion going around.



Hmm, pie.