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Otter said:

The interesting question remaining, is what did Sony actually wanted from the purchase to begin with? Did they want them to immediately start making original content, would they have been happy them being a remake and support studio? 

Around a month after being acquired, it was BP themselves who confirmed they were working on 'original content' (and had already stared support on Ragnarok it seems). I don't think there's much debate as to why Sony acquired them: it wasn't to do keep doing remakes.
GymratAmarillo said:

I didn't play the Marathon demo but I did play the Horizon Hunters test last Friday and yesterday, I can't say specifics because of "legal" reasons but I can say that I was interested before testing it and I'm still very much interested.

I just don't see how that game is going to survive if the Horizon community doesn't give it a chance.

I can't tell if yo enjoyed it or not lol

the-pi-guy said:

I think it's still wildly short sighted. 

Hey, why don't you guys work on remaking some older PS2/PS3 games, while figuring out your new game project?

A proper remake/remaster of Resistance, InFamous, Killzone, etc. 

I wonder if the economics didn't work out, but a Killzone 2 remake especially would've been really cool.
BraLoD said:

NateTheHate said Santa Monica new game is a God of War game, but with Faye (Kratos spouse in the Norse saga) as the main protagonist. So it's a game that predates the Norse saga.

Should be announced this year and release in the first half of 2027.

Why the actual fuck would they want to not have Kratos as the main character?

"But Kratos has gotten X games" yes, and he should be the lead in every single one of them, not Atreus, not Faye, not Freya, not Athena, or anyone else.

FFS. The game should be great as they ever make them to be, but I don't understand why Sony needs to try to distance from popular characters they develop so much.

I think it'll be ok.  There are a vocal part of the GoW fanbase that have been interested in a game where you play as Freya, Thrud or even Seth (if set in Egypt). 

But would've been great if this dude didn't say anything. Reveal would've been epic. 



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BraLoD said:
GymratAmarillo said:

I didn't play the Marathon demo but I did play the Horizon Hunters test last Friday and yesterday, I can't say specifics because of "legal" reasons but I can say that I was interested before testing it and I'm still very much interested.

I just don't see how that game is going to survive if the Horizon community doesn't give it a chance.

I didn't know there was a test for the Horizon game, was it in person and you are under a NDA?

Nope it was online but still you have to agree to their conditions. I knew about it because I follow the official Horizon Hunters subReddit. 



twintail said:
GymratAmarillo said:

I didn't play the Marathon demo but I did play the Horizon Hunters test last Friday and yesterday, I can't say specifics because of "legal" reasons but I can say that I was interested before testing it and I'm still very much interested.

I just don't see how that game is going to survive if the Horizon community doesn't give it a chance.

I can't tell if yo enjoyed it or not lol

I enjoyed LOL, the thing is that right now I don't know who's going to buy it. Services are weird, being fun isn't enough to survive, they need an audience from the beginning and before the reveal I thought the Horizon community would be more open to it but as of right now they aren't. A lot of them are the classic ultra realistic graphics heads lol and yeah that sucks because the machines look great in the cartoon style. 



BraLoD said:

NateTheHate said Santa Monica new game is a God of War game, but with Faye (Kratos spouse in the Norse saga) as the main protagonist. So it's a game that predates the Norse saga.

Should be announced this year and release in the first half of 2027.

Why the actual fuck would they want to not have Kratos as the main character?

"But Kratos has gotten X games" yes, and he should be the lead in every single one of them, not Atreus, not Faye, not Freya, not Athena, or anyone else.

FFS. The game should be great as they ever make them to be, but I don't understand why Sony needs to try to distance from popular characters they develop so much.

Honestly happy for them to try something new. We know nothing about the game, gameplay systems etc and why they would want to go with a new protagonist. This could very well feel like a new IP... Eagerly await its reveal.

All the meanwhile Kratos is having his OG games remade.

I also wish I didn't hear this though. I hate the modern internet age where everything has to be spoiled and leaked ahead of time.



BraLoD said:

NateTheHate said Santa Monica new game is a God of War game, but with Faye (Kratos spouse in the Norse saga) as the main protagonist. So it's a game that predates the Norse saga.

Should be announced this year and release in the first half of 2027.

Why the actual fuck would they want to not have Kratos as the main character?

"But Kratos has gotten X games" yes, and he should be the lead in every single one of them, not Atreus, not Faye, not Freya, not Athena, or anyone else.

FFS. The game should be great as they ever make them to be, but I don't understand why Sony needs to try to distance from popular characters they develop so much.

I think it'll be ok.  There are a vocal part of the GoW fanbase that have been interested in a game where you play as Freya, Thrud or even Seth (if set in Egypt). 

But would've been great if this dude didn't say anything. Reveal would've been epic. 

I think the game itself will be ok, but will the reception actually be?

For once, you can 100% expect a big backslash from the usual pieces of shit about a woman being the protagonist, combined with the fact she is the protagonist in place of Kratos no less, so from the start there will be a lot of negativity and active pushback online, there are a LOT of those people out there, the discourse will be insufferable.

Sony going with Sucker Punch, Santa Monica, Guerrila Games and Naughty Dog, pretty much all their best studios for the games with narratives, all having women as protagonists at the same time, boy oh boy, those pieces of shit will have a stroke, and you can't ignore them anymore, they have big influencers and a big ammount of people willing to be dicks in every single social media you can imagine, every day, regurgitating their idiocy.

After that, there is people that share part or most of what I think. Part of it can be either they'll get it regardless, but also the other part that is extremely sad Kratos is not the protagonist, but unlike me, that part is also prone to become uninterested in the game because of that. I'm really sad, but not uninterested.

If it is mostly the history of Faye fighting Thor, than Kratos and at least midway Kratos and her start liking each other, he is a big part of the history and is mostly always present, specially as a playable option (which would mean Faye has the Leviathan Axe and Kratos is still using the Blades of Chaos, despite his disliking to them, before Atreus is born, I can see some ray of light there, but not salvation, pretty much the same as TLoU2, people hated having to play with Abby midway even as we get back to Ellie, but some still hate the game because of existence of that Abby pov.

Anyway, I'm so disappoint this is their project even as I'm sure the chances of me liking the actual game are very high, and that God of War remake makes even more sense now because that's their way of not letting us without Kratos for a decade, but I'm also sad it was leaked, and I understand why Jason did not, Santa Monica will already suffer the negativity from now on without even being able to show anything for months.



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@Otter I think most of what I wrote above is valid to asnwer your reply as well, so to not repeat the above please consider it a reply to you as well.



BraLoD said:

I think the game itself will be ok, but will the reception actually be?

For once, you can 100% expect a big backslash from the usual pieces of shit about a woman being the protagonist, combined with the fact she is the protagonist in place of Kratos no less, so from the start there will be a lot of negativity and active pushback online, there are a LOT of those people out there, the discourse will be insufferable.

Sony going with Sucker Punch, Santa Monica, Guerrila Games and Naughty Dog, pretty much all their best studios for the games with narratives, all having women as protagonists at the same time, boy oh boy, those pieces of shit will have a stroke, and you can't ignore them anymore, they have big influencers and a big ammount of people willing to be dicks in every single social media you can imagine, every day, regurgitating their idiocy.

After that, there is people that share part or most of what I think. Part of it can be either they'll get it regardless, but also the other part that is extremely sad Kratos is not the protagonist, but unlike me, that part is also prone to become uninterested in the game because of that. I'm really sad, but not uninterested.

If it is mostly the history of Faye fighting Thor, than Kratos and at least midway Kratos and her start liking each other, he is a big part of the history and is mostly always present, specially as a playable option (which would mean Faye has the Leviathan Axe and Kratos is still using the Blades of Chaos, despite his disliking to them, before Atreus is born, I can see some ray of light there, but not salvation, pretty much the same as TLoU2, people hated having to play with Abby midway even as we get back to Ellie, but some still hate the game because of existence of that Abby pov.

Anyway, I'm so disappoint this is their project even as I'm sure the chances of me liking the actual game are very high, and that God of War remake makes even more sense now because that's their way of not letting us without Kratos for a decade, but I'm also sad it was leaked, and I understand why Jason did not, Santa Monica will already suffer the negativity from now on without even being able to show anything for months.

This kind of concern should never dictate what a studio tries to create. I hear you about how frustrating it is, but that's not the studios job to resolve through their creative decisions. I also find that I'm less and less exposed to it. On one hand I do think the grifting has died down a bit, but on the other I also think you can disengage and be more selective with what you have on your feed/what threads you contribute to.

There was only one discussion (on here) I got caught up in regarding Ghost of Yotei but overwhelmingly my exposure to the game has been people actually discussing the game and not whether they think the protagonist is hot enough/being ruined by liberals. Twitter is a mess but it has been for a while and its very easy to block the grifters



I was personally hoping for a new IP but honestly I think its important to not get too caught up in all things you wanted and actually focus and appreciate what the team has to offer. As we haven't seen anything yet, best to hold judgement



BraLoD said:

I think it'll be ok.  There are a vocal part of the GoW fanbase that have been interested in a game where you play as Freya, Thrud or even Seth (if set in Egypt). 

But would've been great if this dude didn't say anything. Reveal would've been epic. 

I think the game itself will be ok, but will the reception actually be?

For once, you can 100% expect a big backslash from the usual pieces of shit about a woman being the protagonist, combined with the fact she is the protagonist in place of Kratos no less, so from the start there will be a lot of negativity and active pushback online, there are a LOT of those people out there, the discourse will be insufferable.

Sony going with Sucker Punch, Santa Monica, Guerrila Games and Naughty Dog, pretty much all their best studios for the games with narratives, all having women as protagonists at the same time, boy oh boy, those pieces of shit will have a stroke, and you can't ignore them anymore, they have big influencers and a big ammount of people willing to be dicks in every single social media you can imagine, every day, regurgitating their idiocy.

After that, there is people that share part or most of what I think. Part of it can be either they'll get it regardless, but also the other part that is extremely sad Kratos is not the protagonist, but unlike me, that part is also prone to become uninterested in the game because of that. I'm really sad, but not uninterested.

If it is mostly the history of Faye fighting Thor, than Kratos and at least midway Kratos and her start liking each other, he is a big part of the history and is mostly always present, specially as a playable option (which would mean Faye has the Leviathan Axe and Kratos is still using the Blades of Chaos, despite his disliking to them, before Atreus is born, I can see some ray of light there, but not salvation, pretty much the same as TLoU2, people hated having to play with Abby midway even as we get back to Ellie, but some still hate the game because of existence of that Abby pov.

Anyway, I'm so disappoint this is their project even as I'm sure the chances of me liking the actual game are very high, and that God of War remake makes even more sense now because that's their way of not letting us without Kratos for a decade, but I'm also sad it was leaked, and I understand why Jason did not, Santa Monica will already suffer the negativity from now on without even being able to show anything for months.

After the release of 2 Horizon games, TLoU2 and Yotei, all this negative discourse should just be background noise. It means nothing to the critical and commercial success of these games.

Obviously it sucks that this Nate guy leaked it, and it'll be annoying for the devs, but if the game is good this negativity will be forgotten. I'm not really concerned. And besides, it's not like anyone here in this forum is going to complain about a female character right?

Right??



It's funny that the rumor describes the game as "Devil May Cry gameplay style" is like brother God of War used to be hack and slash but I guess Devil May Cry may be a good example because of the camera style it uses.

Makes sense, after the "no scifi, no new ip" from last year we theorized the game could be more God of War because it enters in the "no new ip" category and it looks like it may be true. I also posted that I wanted Cory to rework Heavenly Sword and this is the closest to that lol. Yep I love hack and slashes and I trust completely Cory and Santa Monica.

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