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BraLoD said:
EricHiggin said:

This would be good news, but what about cross buy between cross gen? PS4 and PS5?

PS4 and PS5 may be part of the same overall SNY PS ecosystem, but they are different platforms. Not as different as console vs PC, but still different.
More work needs to go into porting PS5 titles to get them on PC, just like more work goes into upgrading PS4 titles to bring them up to PS5 standards.
So I don't see why this cross buy should only apply to PC and not PS4. Why hafta pay more to upgrade from a PS4 to PS5 title, if PS5 to PC is free?

There is no growth to be had on PS4 anymore, they plan to grow on PC and adding value to both PS5 and PC sounds a lot better to invest on than on PS4.

When the PS6 releases Sony will really not want to even keep giving support to the PS4 and we'll likely see the store starting to be left away and becoming a buggy mess like it was with the PSP, PS3 and PSV eventually. I don't think they want add something that might affect the PS5 as their legacy supported console.

They will care where profit is to be made, when the PS4 becomes pretty much just a cost with hardly any profit, it becomes a burden, and they can't care less about people there. PS4 games run on PS5, so if you have those you can keep playing it moving on to the PS5.

PS5 to PS6 crossbuy might be a thing, going backwards to add it to the PS4 post 2025? Not happening.

I'm not saying port every PS5 game to PS4 at this point. I'm saying for the cross gen titles that exist, offer cross buy. If you own the PS5 version, you automatically get the PS4 version, and vice versa, plus the PC version. Basically you get the game no matter what platform it's on. That specific game and only that version of that game. You don't get the Complete edition with all the DLC later, and you don't get the remake or remaster, eventually. XB has something like this already does it not?

Next gen may very well end up with many cross gen titles, potentially for the entire length of the gen, so cross buy in that case would make a ton of sense. Buying either the PS5 or PS6 version should get you both, plus the PC version, assuming they exist. I wouldn't expect there to be a PS4 version next gen, but if for whatever reason there was, like perhaps for a PS GAAS game that finally hits it so big that maybe it warrants a PS4 version, who knows, then that version should be included with the PS5, PS6, and PC version.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

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Kyuu said:

Bruh... this joins Chrono Cross's Another Arni and FF1's Town Theme to make my "holy chill town trinity".

Falcom's music deserves so much more attention. This sountrack is pretty much Yasunori Mitsuda level to me, and it's the only one that sounds better in the "Arranged" style. The violin gets me everytime man.

And as much as I was disappointed by Ys 8, it also had some amazing music. My favorite being this:

So good T_T

Were you disappointed with Ys8 compared to previous entries in general (including the isometric and bump games) or just compared to the party based ones?

Oath and Origins are the series' peak for me but I'd say 8 is one of the better party based ones (I am partial to 7 because of the pacing and semi-set camera angle).



@AddRat

I only played Ys Origin and 8. IMO Ys8 is butchered by low production values (for the scope) and a really poor spammable mechanic (Flash Move/Guard).

I intend to play the other isometric Ys games and skip the rest. Ys Origin with its tight controls and awesome/challenging boss battles was a lot more enjoyable to me than Ys8.



Oh, I see. Totally get that. The isometric ones have such a well-crafted feel to their combat and bosses And the more restrictive items use and RPG mechanics make for a better paced and experience.

I like the party based ones but I have to create self-imposed restrictions to get the experience I'm looking for. Ys 7, and to a lesser extend Celceta, kind of retains some of the older feel but the overcentralizing Flash mechanics are there in all of these, to similar degrees of balance sadly. The music slaps in pretty much all of them, though.

8's production values made more sense when it was a Vita game but even 9 looks like an extremely upscaled early 360 game.



EricHiggin said:
BraLoD said:

There is no growth to be had on PS4 anymore, they plan to grow on PC and adding value to both PS5 and PC sounds a lot better to invest on than on PS4.

When the PS6 releases Sony will really not want to even keep giving support to the PS4 and we'll likely see the store starting to be left away and becoming a buggy mess like it was with the PSP, PS3 and PSV eventually. I don't think they want add something that might affect the PS5 as their legacy supported console.

They will care where profit is to be made, when the PS4 becomes pretty much just a cost with hardly any profit, it becomes a burden, and they can't care less about people there. PS4 games run on PS5, so if you have those you can keep playing it moving on to the PS5.

PS5 to PS6 crossbuy might be a thing, going backwards to add it to the PS4 post 2025? Not happening.

I'm not saying port every PS5 game to PS4 at this point. I'm saying for the cross gen titles that exist, offer cross buy. If you own the PS5 version, you automatically get the PS4 version, and vice versa, plus the PC version. Basically you get the game no matter what platform it's on. That specific game and only that version of that game. You don't get the Complete edition with all the DLC later, and you don't get the remake or remaster, eventually. XB has something like this already does it not?

Next gen may very well end up with many cross gen titles, potentially for the entire length of the gen, so cross buy in that case would make a ton of sense. Buying either the PS5 or PS6 version should get you both, plus the PC version, assuming they exist. I wouldn't expect there to be a PS4 version next gen, but if for whatever reason there was, like perhaps for a PS GAAS game that finally hits it so big that maybe it warrants a PS4 version, who knows, then that version should be included with the PS5, PS6, and PC version.

It already exists on some games, and that is up to the devs choose if they wanted it or not. Sony themselves choose to allow $10 upgrade for their games if you bought the PS4 version based on the price increase over their generations. Early on their games were crossbuy for no additional cost, but they moved on from that in 2022. A widespread crossbuy adoption in 2025 is just sadly pointless for them, we have more active PS5 than PS4 users since some time now, too.

Also, even Genshin Impact already abandoned the PS4, it will become unplayable mid 2026 but you already can't download it there anymore if you never did before.

I agree that it makes a lot of sense for the PS5 and PS6 gen, as I do expect the crossplatform period to be the actual full generation aside from some very specific games here and there later on. That also means if PS6 games prices are raised, so are for the PS5, because if they don't, you'll have to buy the upgrade patch for the price difference like it was since 2022 for this gen.



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GTA 6 delayed to November 19th, 2026.



GTA 6 November 19. Great timing for PS5 the console to fly from the shelves but not so much for Wolverine the PS5 game lol.
Time to put all the people available in action to get ready and release the game before September 2026 ends lol.



I'll say right now that it will not release in 2026.
Releasing during the holidays will make many other high profile games suffer during the best release period of the year.

GTA VI will release April, 2027, quote me in the future.



Oomphf… as much as I love the two levels i did a test run of today for Astro’s Rescue Mission, I’m getting annihilated by motion sickness. Any tips?



BraLoD said:
EricHiggin said:

I'm not saying port every PS5 game to PS4 at this point. I'm saying for the cross gen titles that exist, offer cross buy. If you own the PS5 version, you automatically get the PS4 version, and vice versa, plus the PC version. Basically you get the game no matter what platform it's on. That specific game and only that version of that game. You don't get the Complete edition with all the DLC later, and you don't get the remake or remaster, eventually. XB has something like this already does it not?

Next gen may very well end up with many cross gen titles, potentially for the entire length of the gen, so cross buy in that case would make a ton of sense. Buying either the PS5 or PS6 version should get you both, plus the PC version, assuming they exist. I wouldn't expect there to be a PS4 version next gen, but if for whatever reason there was, like perhaps for a PS GAAS game that finally hits it so big that maybe it warrants a PS4 version, who knows, then that version should be included with the PS5, PS6, and PC version.

It already exists on some games, and that is up to the devs choose if they wanted it or not. Sony themselves choose to allow $10 upgrade for their games if you bought the PS4 version based on the price increase over their generations. Early on their games were crossbuy for no additional cost, but they moved on from that in 2022. A widespread crossbuy adoption in 2025 is just sadly pointless for them, we have more active PS5 than PS4 users since some time now, too.

Also, even Genshin Impact already abandoned the PS4, it will become unplayable mid 2026 but you already can't download it there anymore if you never did before.

I agree that it makes a lot of sense for the PS5 and PS6 gen, as I do expect the crossplatform period to be the actual full generation aside from some very specific games here and there later on. That also means if PS6 games prices are raised, so are for the PS5, because if they don't, you'll have to buy the upgrade patch for the price difference like it was since 2022 for this gen.

I'm only talking about SNY due to the PC cross buy leak, not third party developers/publishers for PS consoles.

Do PS5 games cost the same on PC as they do for console? Usually PC is cheaper is it not? More expensive PS5 versions next gen don't really make sense then.

Unless SNY does what some are suggesting and are making their own PC launcher with a PS Store. Then SNY might try and charge one sole price for a game next gen and that game just works on whatever platforms SNY has decided to support it on.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.