Does anybody want to talk about what Trump wants to accomplish during his term?
thehunter said:
As I've said earlier, those on the right or in the MAGA movement are at least honest enough to criticize their own when they do something wrong or hypocritical.  |
Trump gets called out all the time for lying and MAGA faithful fall in line and call it "fake news." Trump still says the 2020 election was stolen and his supporters don't bat and eye at it and pretend like it's totally normal and okay to say this. It's why MAGA is called out for being a cult because they don't question anything bad about Trump. The current Epstein situation is literally the first time I've seen Trump get any kind of pushback from his base in any significant way.
Dems and left leaning voters don't give a shit about Bill Clinton or any other democrats are in the files. Clinton is not a good person. The only people I see bring up Clinton are MAGA trying to deflect.
| shavenferret said: Does anybody want to talk about what Trump wants to accomplish during his term? |
Project 2025, and he's already well on the way.
The endgame in this regime, or at least down the line is Orban's Hungary in the best-case scenario. Anti-immigration (even legal immigration of "undesirables"), anti-LGBTQ, some control over independent journalists and nongovernment actors, consolidated power in the government. We're getting there pretty rapidly.
I don't think Trump personally wants to try full-on for a totalitarian dictatorship in particular because he is too lazy.
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| Ryuu96 said: Second lawsuit incoming? Lol. Why does it feel like the WSJ is the only major news organisation standing up against Trump, I don't want to root for a Murdoch shit-rag but it feels like most others caved immediately. Still not fully sure what a far-right dickhead like Murdoch's angle is, but it seems like the most likely possibility now is that Trump has outlived his usefulness, given Murdoch what he wanted but is now being thrown to the wolves because he is fucking up the economy and Murdoch may be far-right but he is still a businessman who wants to make money, unlike Trump who doesn't know how to make money. |
Certainly an odd turn of events. But it's evil people capitalising on evil, I don't believe any of it is being reported for journalistic integrity. Elon knew all along that DJT was in the files, but he only had a problem with it after his fallout with Trump.
Tbf a lot of people are making calculations now, calculations that do not factor in justice for the victims.
| thehunter said: There are many, too many, Trump supporters who are letting things slide since it's their guy doing it, but there are far, far more who are vocally calling out the administration for breach of a critical campaign promise -- it's not always the case, but the right tends to be self-assessing and I suspect in time the base pressure will force some kind of disclosure. |
Can you give me two meaningful examples of when the right was ever self assessing?
| thehunter said: We'd get the truth about the sick men and women who were involved by the weekend, and find out that many of these people were pushing destructive civilization-ending ideologies like wokeism, corporatism, securityism, alphabetism, etc for the past generation, and know who the blackmailers were behind all of it. |
This whole paragraph is just insane.
I don't think you know what any of this means.
| the-pi-guy said: Can you give me two meaningful examples of when the right was ever self assessing? |
Got two links read to go for you pi guy, but I have one condition given your track record here of demanding receipts but never giving anything (a bad habit of leftists): if you can acknowledge that CNN, MSNBC, the Democrats and most leftists attempted to deceive the American public by hiding/denying Joe Biden's obvious senility till June 2024 and, in the case of Kamala Harris and the cabinet, were derelict in their constitutional duty (25th amendment) to remove him from office for the aforementioned unfitness for office, I'll have two links back to you within the day*.
Time for you to deliver for once.
*only putting this provision in to allow time for you to see this, respond and for me to likewise see the response
| shavenferret said: they won't do anything if you don't complain |
It's not worth my time to go that far, but eventually he's going to run into some bad dudes if he keeps making statements like that.
| thehunter said: Got two links read to go for you pi guy, but I have one condition given your track record here of demanding receipts but never giving anything (a bad habit of leftists): |
Yes, leftists are famously the ones who never give sources.
This right here is why right wingers are so bad at self assessing. They love pointing the finger at other people, instead of ever looking inward.
No one is perfect. Most people are lazy and don't provide sources. Acting like this is a left wing problem exclusively is the reason why right wingers usually struggle to honestly self assess themselves.
| thehunter said: if you can acknowledge that CNN, MSNBC, the Democrats and most leftists attempted to deceive the American public by hiding/denying Joe Biden's obvious senility till June 2024 |
What does this even mean? Do you think 40% of the country was having regular meetings about it?
If you want to say something more reasonable like the "White House" covered it up, absolutely.
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Last edited by the-pi-guy - on 23 July 2025
Fine, I'll settle for this specific list of people/entities; will you acknowledge that they each, in their own capacity, deceived the American people about Joe Biden as I stated above (I even threw in a couple of freebie links for you):
Inside Edition (just for fun)
MSNBC (bonus: yes, there was a conspiracy, but not 40% of the country...don't put words in my mouth)
ABC
CBS
CNN
Stephen Colbert
Kamala Harris
WSJ
Nanci Pelosi (no irony here...)
Karine Jean-Pierre, in her capacity as WH Press Secretary
Sen. Chris Coons (D)
Sen. Chris Murphy (D)
Sec. Gina Raimondo
Gov. Gavin Newsom (D)
To his credit, Jon Stewart saw the writing on the wall last year and was honest enough to raise the warning flag but he's a rare exception on the modern left.
Bonus for you if you suggest an appropriate punishment for anyone who used their office to hide this from the American people and allowed the auto-pen to run the country (but this, in keeping with my original bargain, is not a requirement)
thehunter said:
Got two links read to go for you pi guy, but I have one condition given your track record here of demanding receipts but never giving anything (a bad habit of leftists): if you can acknowledge that CNN, MSNBC, the Democrats and most leftists attempted to deceive the American public by hiding/denying Joe Biden's obvious senility till June 2024 and, in the case of Kamala Harris and the cabinet, were derelict in their constitutional duty (25th amendment) to remove him from office for the aforementioned unfitness for office, I'll have two links back to you within the day*. |
It's not black and white (article from a year ago)
https://www.vox.com/politics/358877/biden-age-debate-media-coverage
...
So did the media get this one wrong?
I know many readers would love an easy answer here, and I know many pundits are eager to provide one. But it’s just not that simple.
For starters, there’s no such thing as “the media” anymore. We live in a time of such complete and utter mass-media fragmentation that we each live in a media bubble of our own making. In mine, Biden might be a wise leader who is making America sane again after four years of Trump insanity; in yours, he might be a doddering old fool or a victim of “elder abuse,” as Fox hosts are now openly saying.
And even if you narrow the media-criticism conversation down to a handful of high-profile, down-the-middle national outlets, the record of how effectively Biden’s health was covered is complicated, just as aging is a complicated process. Baker, who co-bylined a new story on Tuesday titled “Biden’s Lapses Are Said to Be Increasingly Common and Worrisome,” told me, “It’s very likely that things have progressed in recent weeks and months that make this a more acute story now.”
Throughout Biden’s years in office, reporters sought to avoid ageist stereotypes and respect the fact that Biden has a history of stuttering while also reporting on what they were observing. They also weighed his verbal gaffes and viral video blunders against his political victories. Baker and several other reporters wrote in the June 2023 “America’s Oldest President” story that Biden was, in truth, “somewhere between the partisan cartoon of an addled and easily manipulated fogy promoted by Republicans and the image spread by his staff of a president in aviator shades commanding the world stage and governing with vigor.”
So, about those Republicans. Fox News stars have been taking a victory lap this week, having spent years and countless segments portraying Biden as incompetent and incapacitated. They feel like they deserve credit for being early to the story that’s now consuming Washington.
But Fox supplied precious little actual reporting on the subject of Biden’s health. Instead, hosts like Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham queued up video clips of Biden looking helpless and played those clips on a loop, devoid of any context or balance. When Biden would deliver a forceful speech, as on State of the Union night, Fox’s commentators seemed caught off guard.
Consider the recent controversies over so-called “cheapfake” videos of Biden. He really has, at times, appeared to wander off and freeze up in front of cameras. But some of the videos hyped by Biden critics were misleading, even maliciously so.
Pro-Trump media outlets took a clip of Biden pausing before sitting down in a chair and claimed that there was no chair there at all. Online meme makers imagined that he was defecating during a D-Day ceremony.
Those types of lies caused at least a little bit of hesitation among good-faith reporters. As one said to me, “I didn’t want to feed into a bad-faith caricature.”
But the answer to bad-faith attacks can’t be a supine press, and journalists have a chance now to prove they’re up to the task of reporting this story. The public deserves to know more about Biden’s health, and it is owed more insight into how the president is functioning in the White House.
We live in the era of a gerontocracy. Were Trump to win, he’d be 82 at the end of his second term — older than Biden is now. “The Biden-is-old story is a small piece of a bigger story, which is that our entire government is really old, across all branches,” said Alter, who wrote the 2020 book The Ones We’ve Been Waiting For: How a New Generation of Leaders Will Transform America.
That new generation is still waiting for its turn. So questions of age will come up over and over again. Reporters who push past hostile press offices and recalcitrant readers to get to the facts will have met the moment — and delivered to the public what it deserves.
Anyway, good riddance of Genocide Joe, hope he lives long enough to stand trial but I doubt it.
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