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Moreover, Prevost does not play to classic stereotypes of brash American arrogance. Instead, as both the Italian newspaper La Repubblica and the national TV network RAI recently put it, he comes off as il meno americano tra gli americani, "the least American of the Americans." Fundamentally, a vote for Prevost would be seen in broad strokes as a vote for continuity with much of the substance of the Pope Francis agenda, but not necessarily the style, as he's more pragmatic, cautious and discreet than the late pope – all qualities many of his fellow cardinals might well find desirable.

The case against?

To begin with, Prevost is something of a cypher when it comes to many of the contested issues in Catholic life. In terms of where he stands on matters such as the ordination of women deacons, or the blessing of persons in same-sex unions, or the Latin Mass, he's played his cards awfully close to his chest. For some cardinals, that might make Prevost too much of a journey into the unknown, especially among more conservative voters who want some guarantee of greater clarity.

In addition, Prevost is among several US cardinals against whom complaints have been lodged by the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests (SNAP) for allegedly mishandling abuse complaints. One concerns the accused priest in Chicago, the other two priests in Chiclayo in Peru. There is a compelling other side to that story: multiple parties have defended Prevost's conduct in both cases, the canon lawyer who initially represented the Peruvian victims is a disgraced ex-priest with an axe to grind, and while in Chiclayo, Prevost was head of a successful diocesan commission for child protection. Still, the mere hint of culpability might be enough to worry some electors.

https://thecatholicherald.com/papabile-of-the-day-cardinal-prevost-could-be-first-superpower-pope-for-us/



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Ryuu96 said:
SanAndreasX said:

I'm kind of shocked. I always thought the Catholic Church would never elect an American as a pope, due to the concerns that the church could be made into an organ of the American empire. Maybe they elected him in hopes that as an American, he could tame some of Trump's worst excesses.

He could be the compromise Pope, a plain old boring moderate, it doesn't seem there's much excitement about him but not much outright anger either. Maybe they picked an American though to combat some of the American Catholicism bullshit happening lately. The biggest thing for me is if his homophobic views and misogynist views have changed.

Looks like the new Holy Father isn't a fan of JD Vance.

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— Eric Michael Garcia (@ericmgarcia.bsky.social) 8 May 2025 at 18:26

This ain't a one-off either. This Pope does not seem to like JD Vance.

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— Eric Michael Garcia (@ericmgarcia.bsky.social) 8 May 2025 at 18:35

The new Pope didn't tweet once in 2024. In 2025, he's posted 5 times, in which he:

- Criticized JD Vance's views on Catholicism and Jesus
- Posted an article opposing Trump's immigration policies
- Retweeted twice about the Pope's health
- Retweeted a criticism of Trump & Bukele's laughter at KAG.

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— Aaron Reichlin-Melnick (@reichlinmelnick.bsky.social) 8 May 2025 at 18:34

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, a right-wing Trump supporter, apparently tried to raise money to elect the "right" pope (read: buy the papacy for Trump). I'll bet he's throwing ketchup bottles in his holy apartment right now.



Probably would have been hard to find any Pope who wasn't shit on handling the rampant sexual abuse in the Catholic Church Tbh and who doesn't have backward ass views on LGBTQ+ and women but he definitely doesn't seem to be a fan of Trump/JD Vance and that's probably the best we could have hoped for from the Catholic Church, Lol. Again, when I say he seems moderate, I say from a Catholic standpoint considering a ton of them have shitty views on women/LGBTQ (and I hope he has changed those views).

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Ryuu96 said:

Probably would have been hard to find any Pope who wasn't shit on handling the rampant sexual abuse in the Catholic Church Tbh and who doesn't have backward ass views on LGBTQ+ and women but he definitely doesn't seem to be a fan of Trump/JD Vance and that's probably the best we could have hoped for from the Catholic Church, Lol. Again, when I say he seems moderate, I say from a Catholic standpoint considering a ton of them have shitty views on women/LGBTQ (and I hope he has changed those views).

Francis at least tried to be understanding, which is a huge lurch forward for the Church, especially after Benedict. He no doubt hoped that Cardinal Prevost, now Leo XIV, would carry on his work in this regard as well. The nightmare scenario would have been Dolan or Raymond Burke being elected. Dolan would have handed the keys to the Vatican over to Trump.



SanAndreasX said:
Ryuu96 said:

Probably would have been hard to find any Pope who wasn't shit on handling the rampant sexual abuse in the Catholic Church Tbh and who doesn't have backward ass views on LGBTQ+ and women but he definitely doesn't seem to be a fan of Trump/JD Vance and that's probably the best we could have hoped for from the Catholic Church, Lol. Again, when I say he seems moderate, I say from a Catholic standpoint considering a ton of them have shitty views on women/LGBTQ (and I hope he has changed those views).

Francis at least tried to be understanding, which is a huge lurch forward for the Church, especially after Benedict. He no doubt hoped that Cardinal Prevost, now Leo XIV, would carry on his work in this regard as well. The nightmare scenario would have been Dolan or Raymond Burke being elected. Dolan would have handed the keys to the Vatican over to Trump.

Yeah, folk are saying he is aligned with Francis (and was of course appointed by Francis) so hopefully he just continues Francis work and improves on a few of his narrow minded views. I don't think American Conservatives will be celebrating once they see his tweets, Lmao.

Also he did his entire speech in Spanish apparently? So...Yeah, Lol.

2018 retweet from the now Pope on Trump's family separation

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— Robert Maguire (@robertmaguire.bsky.social) 8 May 2025 at 18:51



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MAGA was excited for a few minutes that the newly elected Pope is American…

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— Teddy Wilson (@reportbywilson.bsky.social) 8 May 2025 at 18:46

“A new woke pope.”

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— Teddy Wilson (@reportbywilson.bsky.social) 8 May 2025 at 19:08

There we go.



They are all so full of hate about everything which isn't 100% as them and yet they believe they are the good people on earth lol



crissindahouse said:

They are all so full of hate about everything which isn't 100% as them and yet they believe they are the good people on earth lol

The Taliban and ISIS think the same way as they do. 



I’m feeling cautiously optimistic about Pope Leo. I’ll be satisfied if he builds on Francis’s foundations. The fact that the red hats are so pissed off is a good sign. They were no doubt hoping to bring the Vatican under Trump’s control. The papal conclave gave the red-hats the biggest “fuck you” possible.