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Machiavellian on 10 May 2023
Ryuu96 said:
Spade said:

Didn't we hear the same shit about the CMA passing and then it got blocked... 

Second block incoming. 

Slightly different. IIRC NY Post said that Microsoft was optimistic about CMA approving the deal according to sources close to Microsoft. Reuters is saying that EC will approve it according to people familiar with the matter. Depends who those people are but EC is leakier than CMA/FTC. NY Post was more based on "feelings" while Reuters seems like someone has straight up told them it will be approved.

Also Bloomberg is now reporting the same.

Not that it matters though, the deal is still dead, but it'd be nice to see at least one major regulator hasn't lost the plot and is actually basing things on facts rather than rampant speculation. UK is once again going to stand alone as the problem (because lets face it, FTC would be crushed in US Courts), Lol.

If the EU approve, you still believe the deal is dead.  There are remedies that MS can pursue in the UK to get it done still.



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Ryuu96 on 10 May 2023
Machiavellian said:
Ryuu96 said:

Slightly different. IIRC NY Post said that Microsoft was optimistic about CMA approving the deal according to sources close to Microsoft. Reuters is saying that EC will approve it according to people familiar with the matter. Depends who those people are but EC is leakier than CMA/FTC. NY Post was more based on "feelings" while Reuters seems like someone has straight up told them it will be approved.

Also Bloomberg is now reporting the same.

Not that it matters though, the deal is still dead, but it'd be nice to see at least one major regulator hasn't lost the plot and is actually basing things on facts rather than rampant speculation. UK is once again going to stand alone as the problem (because lets face it, FTC would be crushed in US Courts), Lol.

If the EU approve, you still believe the deal is dead.  There are remedies that MS can pursue in the UK to get it done still.

Yes.

CMA wants the deal blocked. CAT doesn't look into the decision itself, they only look into whether the CMA acted irrationally, broke the law or broke procedure. In addition, no new evidence can be submitted to CAT, they only look into what was already submitted. Microsoft can't offer CMA anything new unless CAT throws it back to CMA.

Irrationality is their only course and it's an extremely high bar. Even IF (and it's a massive if), CAT throws it back to CMA, they'll find another reason to block the deal. The only extreme long-shot they have is ring-fencing but CMA have already stated they are acting as a global regulator so they'll want anything Microsoft does structurally to apply worldwide.

Deal is dead.

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AJNShelton on 10 May 2023
Spade said:
Ryuu96 said:

BRUSSELS, May 10 (Reuters) - EU antitrust regulators are set to approve Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) $69 billion acquisition of Activision (ATVI.O) next week, with May 15 as the likeliest date, people familiar with the matter said.

The EU antitrust enforcer is expected to clear the acquisition after Microsoft agreed to licensing deals with cloud streaming rivals including Nvidia, Ukraine's Boosteroid and Japan's Ubitus, other people with direct knowledge of the matter told Reuters in March.

EU Decision Clearing $69 Bln Microsoft, Activision Deal Expected May 15, Sources Say | Reuters

Didn't we hear the same shit about the CMA passing and then it got blocked... 

Second block incoming. 

Yes but it got jinxed by Michael Pachter, hopefully this isn't the case this time



shikamaru317 on 10 May 2023
gtotheunit91 said:

So another year away from Dragon Age. Probably at least 2 years from Mass Effect

Perfect example of a game announced way too soon. Dragon Age 4 was announced at the 2018 Game Awards in December 2018, now we find out it won't release until sometime after April 2024, 5 and a half years after it's announcement at the earliest, and it could end up releasing closer to 6 years after it's announcement.

 



shikamaru317 on 10 May 2023
Ryuu96 said:
Machiavellian said:

If the EU approve, you still believe the deal is dead.  There are remedies that MS can pursue in the UK to get it done still.

Yes.

CMA wants the deal blocked. CAT doesn't look into the decision itself, they only look into whether the CMA acted irrationally, broke the law or broke procedure. In addition, no new evidence can be submitted to CAT, they only look into what was already submitted. Microsoft can't offer CMA anything new unless CAT throws it back to CMA.

Irrationality is their only course and it's an extremely high bar. Even IF (and it's a massive if), CAT throws it back to CMA, they'll find another reason to block the deal. The only extreme long-shot they have is ring-fencing but CMA have already stated they are acting as a global regulator so they'll want anything Microsoft does structurally to apply worldwide.

Deal is dead.

Seems to me they can just cancel their Xbox Cloud Gaming operations in the UK. Surely that's far better in the long run than losing $2b to ABK and losing out on the whole acquisition over a nonsense, debunked claim by the CMA.



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Ryuu96 on 10 May 2023
shikamaru317 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Yes.

CMA wants the deal blocked. CAT doesn't look into the decision itself, they only look into whether the CMA acted irrationally, broke the law or broke procedure. In addition, no new evidence can be submitted to CAT, they only look into what was already submitted. Microsoft can't offer CMA anything new unless CAT throws it back to CMA.

Irrationality is their only course and it's an extremely high bar. Even IF (and it's a massive if), CAT throws it back to CMA, they'll find another reason to block the deal. The only extreme long-shot they have is ring-fencing but CMA have already stated they are acting as a global regulator so they'll want anything Microsoft does structurally to apply worldwide.

Deal is dead.

Seems to me they can just cancel their Xbox Cloud Gaming operations in the UK. Surely that's far better in the long run than losing $2b to ABK and losing out on the whole acquisition over a nonsense, debunked claim by the CMA.

Issue is CMA stating they're a Global Regulator and want any concessions to apply Worldwide.

So it's likely that CMA won't accept that unless Microsoft shuts down xCloud Worldwide.

I know the irony that CMA is claiming to be a Global Regulator whilst everyone else is approving it, Lol.

I also have my doubts the CMA would even believe Microsoft at this stage, they'll probably just say "nah we don't trust you, in the future you'll bring xCloud back and have CoD exclusive to it"



Ryuu96 on 10 May 2023

Also reminder that only 33% of cases have been sent back to CMA by CAT and in all 33%, the CMA made the same decision.



PixelPirate on 10 May 2023

Really can't wait for a new Dragon Age. Shame we have to wait at least another year. Damn, Origins was truly great.



VersusEvil on 10 May 2023
PixelPirate said:

Really can't wait for a new Dragon Age. Shame we have to wait at least another year. Damn, Origins was truly great.

Nothing beats the wait for DA4 like a DA1-3 replay ;) also …. *lowers voice* your sig, don’t let Ryuu see it, just ask Noble what happens to PS users. 



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VersusEvil on 10 May 2023

NGL some of the bingo card submissions have been great, going to start working on mine this week.



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