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Ryuu96 said:
KLXVER said:

Maybe not a Gamepass filler, but not exactly a system seller I mean.

Im just saying IF they really are interested in getting new players, then they have to do better. 

Hmh. Game Pass filler tends to be used to mock titles in Game Pass, a criticism towards their quality.

Pentiment is not a system seller, no, all the more reason to port it to PlayStation, Lol.

Again. This is not about the Xbox console, it's about the IPs.

I dont get this strategy at all. Sounds like its just more about getting a few more sales for certain games than actually growing anything.



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So I watched/listen to it and it was pretty much what I expected. The new high end system will be aimed at the extreme enthusiasts because there’s no way that thing ain’t £600+ who pretty much main Xbox systems regardless. The four games are no loss to me as I didn’t play 3 of them, shame I can’t double dip on Starfield (yet) … and yeah doesn’t change anything for me.



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PotentHerbs said:
Spade said:

Grounded and SoT are massive tentpoles or Xbox. Them putting these live service games on other platforms looks to also be strategic is suffocating some of the competitions' own GAAS. Only so many GAAS you can play. Kind of a bold move honestly. 

I'll be honest, if Sony's live service games are getting overshadowed by Sea of Thieves or Grounded, they never had a chance lol. 

Tbf, Sea of Thieves crossed the 30 million player threshold in June 2022 and Grounded past the 15 million player threshold in December 2022. 

So these are already well established GAAS titles. So can't really fault Sony in that regard since they're only now making headway into the live service market. 



NobleTeam360 said:

Refall is tainted, even if they fix it (or have fixed it) porting it to other systems won't do the game any favors. Let it die, let Arkane Austin move on.

There is one big problem with Redfall right now. They sold people the more expensive bite back edition which was supposed to have 2 future DLC characters. 9 months after launch now, and those DLC characters have not yet been announced by Arkane, though they did say in their update 3 patch notes that the new heroes would be added in 2024. If they just abandon the game now without designing those DLC characters they'd be opening themselves up to a potential lawsuit, unless they refund all people the added $30 cost of the Bite Back Edition/standalone upgrade. 

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Still find it interesting they let these rumors go wild for so long... A tweet or statement could have done the job, no?



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KLXVER said:
Imaginedvl said:

Well that's my point then, if you do not know those games... But are calling them Game Pass fillers, this is just weird.. :)

Its like Nintendo wanting to expand their audience by releasing Box Boy on the Xbox. Im sure its a nice little game, but thats not what is going to get people to buy Nintendo consoles. Mario, Zelda and Pokemon would. Thats all Im saying. I think MS should just keep all their games exclusive to Xbox and PC instead. Makes the Xbox look better with more exclusives.

Does it make Xbox look better.  You just named a few games on Nintendo system but can you name or even care about 50% of the exclusives that come to the system.  That goes the same for Playstation.  Its not about the quantity its about the quality.  The staples that define your console is what make consumers purchase the system.  Some games really just need a bigger audience and if they are successful on other platforms, the sequel will make you want it more but are you willing to wait 2 years before you get that sequel is the case.



shikamaru317 said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Refall is tainted, even if they fix it (or have fixed it) porting it to other systems won't do the game any favors. Let it die, let Arkane Austin move on.

There is one big problem with Redfall right now. They sold people the more expensive bite back edition which was supposed to have 2 future DLC characters. 9 months after launch now, and those DLC characters have not yet been announced by Arkane. If they just abandon the game now without designing those DLC characters they'd be opening themselves up to a potential lawsuit, unless they refund all people the added $30 cost of the Bite Back Edition/standalone upgrade. 

Sheesh, guess this is why you don't promise DLC content in advance I guess. 



VersusEvil said:

So I watched/listen to it and it was pretty much what I expected. The new high end system will be aimed at the extreme enthusiasts because there’s no way that thing ain’t £600+ who pretty much main Xbox systems regardless. The four games are no loss to me as I didn’t play 3 of them, shame I can’t double dip on Starfield (yet) … and yeah doesn’t change anything for me.

Well technically we dont know which four games yet. I mean it was prooved that we cant trust leakers on this.



KLXVER said:
Ryuu96 said:

Hmh. Game Pass filler tends to be used to mock titles in Game Pass, a criticism towards their quality.

Pentiment is not a system seller, no, all the more reason to port it to PlayStation, Lol.

Again. This is not about the Xbox console, it's about the IPs.

I dont get this strategy at all. Sounds like its just more about getting a few more sales for certain games than actually growing anything.

I tried explaining this to you earlier. lol Have certain Xbox games, whether smaller niche games or live service games on other platforms that allows for some additional sales, expose players to the kinds of games Xbox makes, players see games like Indiana Jones and Starfield are on Xbox, BAM, new potential Xbox console customer. 

If you send your major system selling IPs like Gears of War or Halo to competing platforms, you're massively devaluing the console. 



PixelPirate said:

Still find it interesting they let these rumors go wild for so long... A tweet or statement could have done the job, no?

This I agree with... Like wtf. Could have just tweeted this. There has to be a reason why they didn't say anything before now... 



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