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After watching all these trailers with great graphics. It's amazing how Red dead 2 still looks the best to me. it looks more realistic then any of these game during gameplay imo.



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After people's complaints about Avowed's colours/art-style, it's interesting to pop over to the Pillars of Eternity Subreddit who mostly don't take issue with the colours, in fact it's mostly positive about the colours. The change from the initial trailer is a bit jarring but I don't think it's a surprise to any Pillars of Eternity fans, especially as Living Lands is described as a weird and colourful place.

Still half a year at minimum to improve the graphics too, which I don't even think are that bad, especially rewatching it on Youtube and looking at the 4K screenshots. The biggest issue I see is the sword combat looks straight out of Elder Scrolls (I.E. Bad, Lol). I like the magic though so I may just be a magic user for the most part. But eh, I'm not feeling optimistic about the combat being great, serviceable maybe.

But it's Obsidian and they're masters at RPG so that part should shine and I love all the stuff they said in the interviews, especially about the companions having a larger role than just meatbots that follow you around, that was something that stood out to me in The Outer Worlds, they actually felt like they had a personality and opinion on things and interacted with the story at times.

No surprise either but the Starfield Subreddit doesn't seem to care much about the 30fps stuff, Lol. Tbh I think they did a masterclass in marketing by revealing this information after the Direct because the reaction, outside of the fanboys, has been largely not caring about it, understanding or disappointment but with understanding so the blowback...I don't really know if we can say there was one.

I remember people dooming that Starfield can't be 30fps after Redfall and honestly I expected a much harsher reaction too but it has been meh, Lol. It was almost like they planned the Direct like "look at all the shit we have in the game, look at all these dang systems, look at how massive our game is, do you really expect we can do 60fps too?" and most are now talking about all the shit in the game, Lol.



zeldaring said:

After watching all these trailers with great graphics. It's amazing how Red dead 2 still looks the best to me. it looks more realistic then any of these game during gameplay imo.

Rockstar is unmatched there.

But it comes at a cost of 4,000+ developers working on Red Dead Redemption 2 alone, the budgets are in the hundreds of millions and the games take 8-10 years to create, Lol.

However...Red Dead Redemption 2 may look close to perfect, even down to the minor details, but I really wasn't much of a fan of the gameplay, story is amazing but the gameplay at times feels like I'm moving through molasses.

I'd actually take them scaling back on the "realism" if it meant they focused more on making the gameplay more "fun" instead of "realistic"

I loved Red Dead Redemption 2 but I would never replay it, Lol.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 13 June 2023

Ryuu96 said:

Rockstar is unmatched there.

But it comes at a cost of 4,000+ developers working on Red Dead Redemption 2 alone, the budgets are in the hundreds of millions and the games take 8-10 years to create, Lol.

And they still can’t get 60fps on Consoles, amateurs. 



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Ryuu96 said:

Lol when he's asked about putting extremely expensive games like Starfield on Game Pass for free, how they make it work financially.

Phil's response: I think everybody understand that Game Pass isn't free.

Journalists still have no grasp of what Xbox is doing with GamePass. 



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Ryuu96 said:
zeldaring said:

After watching all these trailers with great graphics. It's amazing how Red dead 2 still looks the best to me. it looks more realistic then any of these game during gameplay imo.

Rockstar is unmatched there.

But it comes at a cost of 4,000+ developers working on Red Dead Redemption 2 alone, the budgets are in the hundreds of millions and the games take 8-10 years to create, Lol.

However...Red Dead Redemption 2 may look close to perfect, even down to the minor details, but I really wasn't much of a fan of the gameplay, story is amazing but the gameplay at times feels like I'm moving through molasses.

I'd actually take them scaling back on the "realism" if it meant they focused more on making the gameplay more "fun" instead of "realistic"

I loved Red Dead Redemption 2 but I would never replay it, Lol.

Yea the world and graphics were mind blowing. I might replay it again just for how the beautiful the world is. The gameplay if they could just make some descent combat that required skill it would be perfect, Like you said scale back on the realism, but at the same time look at MGSV its pretty well animated and the gameplay is amazing, same with last us 2.

This is where i worry about starfield. They seem like they are doing way too much and ultimately the gameplay might pay for it. 



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VersusEvil said:
Ryuu96 said:

Rockstar is unmatched there.

But it comes at a cost of 4,000+ developers working on Red Dead Redemption 2 alone, the budgets are in the hundreds of millions and the games take 8-10 years to create, Lol.

And they still can’t get 60fps on Consoles, amateurs. 

What they did with Red dead 2 on ps4/xbox was black magic. Those consoles had garbage CPU's. Go watch some gameplay videos it arguably is still the best looking game even today even though it was released on lastgen  hardware.



Spade said:

Lol another Japanese game coming to xbox without a gamepass check... OUCHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Man… Square is right!!!

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