I'm really not so sure the lack of HD will change anything. If casuals are the force that's driving the Wii so heavily, then I can say (as a casual person) that HD visuals, or really visuals in general, don't matter mcuh to begin with. Graphically stuff from virtual console doesnt wow me any less than the newest games on Wii, or on PS3 for that matter. The people who do in fact go nuts on those sorts of features already focus more attention on 360/PS3 anyways I imagine.

nintendomination is bad you seee,

Yes I would, thanks to him : http://malstrom.50webs.com/index.htm .

Was reading him in 2005 before launch. 

I don't think that the Wii is bad for industry as some have said, but then again, I don't really think there's a Nintendomination. Nintendo are doing well, and are currently the industry's leaders but they don't 'dominate' it.

And it's not like the PS3 and 360 are doing badly, they just look a lot weaker in comparison to the monster sales of the Wii and DS, not even the PS2 had this sort of selling power so early in it's life.

wii can easily hit 120mln consoles in worst scenario and 160-190 in best. now nintendo is the only one console maker who didn't make any pricecut or new colors and their console is still sold out from almost every country. right now nintendo is making about 1.8mln consoles/year. in 2008 nintendo don't have to make any price cuts or introuducing new colors to sell all their shipments(maybe they will even start making more consoles per month).wii is the only that can hit more than 50% marketshare so most develpers will be making games for wii and 90% of them always will be exclusives. most jrpgs, anime based games, casual games, party games will hit wii because of low cost of development and those kind of games will be system sellers(especialy jrpgs and casual titles during this generation). besides this generation will "require" from gamers to chose wii60 or pswii if they want to play most great games(it won't end up just like in last generation when buying ps2 was giving you benefit of playing almost every console game) so probably at the end of wii lifecycle 30-40mln(or even more) will be bundled with ps3/x360 in gamers households. aside from this nintendo has all gamecube and some part of ps2 audience who will buy wii what gives us a lot new console buyers. plus nintendo will definitely develop new games and we know that every nintendo new game is a system seller(i'm not counting sequels to wii games):

wii motor sports, pikmin, wave race, star fox. 1080 avalanche. f-zero. donkey kong. mario sports games(golf, tennis, baseball etc.), kirby. animal crossing, kid icarus(we all know it's coming), final fantasy crystal chronicles, disaster, baten kaitos and many more. plus there will be tons of 3rd party great new and old ips like monster hunter, fatal frame which sells a lot consolesin japan and many outside. during whole wii lifecycle nintendo would make even 2.5-3.2mln consoles/month and still make them all sold out from every shop. we will se some new colors and new colors are always a huge boost for every console: new customers will be willing to buy black/blue etc. wii and those who would have had already wii(mainly in japan) will be buying new ones just because they're new. wii will have few price cuts and this will give boosts too.

but best part is launch of wii2 cause if nintendo will be still making last gen wii's after wii 2 launch and make not enough wii2s people who won't find wii2 will be buying wiis because of price and afterall it will be "A WII".

well i know it's long text so(and i made some mistakes in it sorry for my english) nintendo can sell 160-190mln wiis if:

1. at e3 2008 nintendo will announce new colors.

2. nintendo will announce special line of games(some kind of "best of") with lower 29.99$ price.

3. wii fit will see a price cut during 2009.

4. before christmas 2009 there will be a 30-50$ price cut or few bundles with various second games to the normal wii+wiisports bundle(totally new title or something like mario galaxy, kart, wii fit, brawl)

5. at e3 2010 nintendo will announce price cut from 250 if they will be adding to every wii second game from christmass 2009 or make a bundle for 200$ with second game(if they would make a pricecut during 2009)

6. every quarter we will se one 1st party title(or more)

7. every year nintendo will be increasing production and will make a one price cut or a bigger bundle.

8. wii2 will hit market after e3 2012

9. wii will be on a market 2 years after wii2 launch.

10. wii2 shipment will be similar to wii first shipments.

and after end of 7 generation wii would be still selling like hot cakes because of people who couldn't get wii2. 

I was on topic for a while but I'm not the type to let someone spout false statements and not understanding the numbers...

 This is why I say the lifetime will be shorter and not already over. HDTV will be predominant in the next couple of years .

 I have 2 HDTVs and I can tell you like SD (standard definition) televison looks like crap on them. As more channels go HD more people will watch them (I mostly watch HD channels now since SD looks like crap) and eventually everyone will get used to the quality of HD.

 Wii is 480p and 480p does not display properly on my 1080p tvs. It's like using your LDC monitor to display some other resolution besides it's default pixel resolution. HDTVs are much better than LCD monitors doing this but still it's noticeable when you go from 1080p to 480p.

I didn't see the Wii being this big, but personally i really didn't care, I just wanted it to sell enough to keep nintendo around, i really do believe they are the best developers to ever grace this industry known as gaming. I can't really talk about their hardware, but whatever hardware they released they made the most out of it. To me thats the real meaning Creativeness, they have what only a minute developers have and that is true vision, even with the Wii, looking at mario galaxy floored me. They show that its not the tools but its how the craftsman that use his tools and thats why the top 10 best reviewed games are mostly littered with Nintendo titles.

doesn't matter...i have 3 hdtvs (2 plasmas, 1 crt) and i have had at least one for over 4 years now...i watch almost 100% hdtv programming and will watch random hd channels over something that i somewhat like on sd channels

 however, my sis-in-law can't tell the difference, my wife couldn't for years, my bro-in-law still puts it on espn instead of espnhd when he visits, etc

and even as much as I LOVE hd, i have a wii and that is all...motion controls made gamepads obsolete to me while hd doesn't make dvds (or even sd i suppose) obsolete to me...considering that I can tell a HUGE difference and have watched 90%+ hd tv content for 4 years now, but am still ok with dvd quality and am fine with wii/ds quality for video games, i highly doubt that most casuals/non-gamers will care either way...definitely not enough to make wii obsolete due to graphics in the next 5-10 years