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trunkswd said:
gtotheunit91 said:

I still think PS5 will outsell Xbox Series this gen, but not by a wide margin. I've read a lot of people still thinking PS5 will wipe the floor with Xbox, but they forget how much of the market Xbox caught up on going from the 6th gen to 7th gen

PS2: 155 million
Xbox: 24 million

PS3: 87 million
X360: 85 million

That's quite the catch up over the course of a single console generation. And with Xbox soon to be pumping out games nonstop along with the really unfortunate shortages Sony is needing to overcome, we're in for a very competitive generation. Then there's Nintendo lol

This gen will likely end up somewhere between 7th and 8th gens. 70-80m for Xbox Series X|S vs 100-110m for PS5. With the shortages I am expecting this gen to be a year or 2 longer than usual.

I really wish Xbox would release hardware sales numbers still, even if it doesn't mean all that much to them. 

Just announce the number of console sales along with the new number of Game Pass subscribers. Doesn't have to be every quarter but at least some sort of update.



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XBox is doing really well against PS5.  In fact, the only place I'd say XBox is doing poorly is Japan (and really PS5 isn't doing that great in Japan either).  In fact if you take out Japan's numbers for this week and YTD, this is what it looks like:

2022 Console sales (without Japan)

This week YTD
X|S140,0761,268,731
PS5129,587970,027

XBox is in a very good situation already this generation.  Their sales are very close to PS5 overall, and they still have Bethesda and Activision exclusives on the way.  Also, I expect PS5's situation in Japan to get worse and worse every year, and that is the main region that keeps its total looking good vs X|S.  People say PS5 will outsell X|S, but I don't know about that.



trunkswd said:
gtotheunit91 said:

I still think PS5 will outsell Xbox Series this gen, but not by a wide margin. I've read a lot of people still thinking PS5 will wipe the floor with Xbox, but they forget how much of the market Xbox caught up on going from the 6th gen to 7th gen

PS2: 155 million
Xbox: 24 million

PS3: 87 million
X360: 85 million

That's quite the catch up over the course of a single console generation. And with Xbox soon to be pumping out games nonstop along with the really unfortunate shortages Sony is needing to overcome, we're in for a very competitive generation. Then there's Nintendo lol

This gen will likely end up somewhere between 7th and 8th gens. 70-80m for Xbox Series X|S vs 100-110m for PS5. With the shortages I am expecting this gen to be a year or 2 longer than usual.

I don't think a generation plagued by chip shortages, a major European war, introduction of the Steam Deck and growing expansion of Gamepass PC leading to more PC gamers is going to, collectively, be that high. If your numbers hold up, that's 300-340 million consoles sold including Switch. That would be a crazy high number considering everything going against consoles right now. Only way it could do that is if this generation is abnormally long, and if that's the case those numbers won't be as impressive because they will be divided by a larger number when determining the average sold per year.

Last gen PS4 got 117 million and Xbox One got 51 million, rounding up. That's 168 million combined for those two. There is less of a reason to get an Xbox now with Gamepass PC and less of a reason to get a PS5 with big Sony games coming to PC. I think, max, they stay at that 168 level, probably more like 150 million. So I predict 85 million PS5s and 65 million Xbox Series.



Switch rings in its 6th year by selling nearly 1.5 times PS5 and Xbox Series combined, while only Japan gives PS5 a narrow lead over XS for the week.

Also, Xbox winning Europe in Feb is just surreal. Really goes to show how impossible to predict the gaming market can be.

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trunkswd said:

2022 YTD sales estimates:

  1. NS: 3,188,406
  2. XSX|S: 1,298,114
  3. PS5: 1,222,692
  4. PS4: 146,119
  5. X1: 17,605

There are 4 weeks left of Q1 2022. Sony forecasted it will ship 2 million PS5 consoles during this quarter, while Nintendo expects to ship 4 million Switch consoles. PS5 sales will need to improve to an average of just below 200,000 units for the rest of the March.

Nintendo will have no problem reaching their forecast of 4m for the worst quarter regarding shortages.  I don't see Switch having issues matching last year's sales for the rest of the year (Apr-Sep: 8.2m, Oct-Dec: 10.67m) resulting in a >22m year for sure.



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European population is many times larger than that of Japan. How does it make sense to only ship 40% more PS5 consoles to Europe?



Atleast the PS5 has been pretty consistent this year in Oceania.



xMetroid said:

I highly doubt they will be able to sell almost the same amount of PS5 they did with PS4. They will have 2 years of extremely low sales and it won't resolve magically to a 20 million+ year next year. I also doubt they will make this gen last for 8-9 years just cause there was shortage at the beginning. Their are dependant on third party games and they will need to catch up with PC at some point and i doubt even a mid gen upgrade will be able to make them last as long.

PS4 had everything going for it and won't reach 120 millions. With tough competition and 2 years with an advantage to MS + them having a way bigger output of games later on, i feel like we are going to be looking more at a 85 millions to 95 millions ratio. 

Yeah I think some 30 million gap is out of the question and I wouldn't be surprised if it's less than a 10 million difference in the end. Though my guess is 95-100M Xbox vs 105-110M PS5.

I absolutely expect at least an 8 year generation though. Just because technology isn't moving as fast anymore and is getting more expensive, and also visuals are reaching diminishing returns. They had to significantly bulk up the form factor of the consoles this time to make it a meaningful improvement over last gen, so how many more years until they are able to fit another generation leap into a small box?



I do believe more PS5s have been shipped than XBOX Series LTD. So it seems Sony can still get the same or more components than XBOX. But the sudden lack of shipments to Europe seems like a stupid move on Sony's planning. Maybe they airlifted Europe's February stock into the US for January, thus the NPD win.

Who really knows except Sony?

Either way, they should really figure out a solution to this.



Mar1217 said:

Though to be honest, it's gotta be said, even with the surprise win of the Xbox in Europe due to the shortages and Sony not shipping much in Europe compared to the US while Xbox uses their stock of Series S to take advantage of the fact.

It's mostly Nintendo that's been really impressing on the old continent and by far when you consider there were mostly relegated to almost a non-factor there during most of the 2010's. Now it's just been constant growth in the region and is in part why the numbers for the Switch are still impressive to this day. I also expect more growth during the summer since they've decided to tap into football with Mario Strikers which could become a flagship title there in Euro territories, further growing it's audience there.

Exactly. It is a market that i think Nintendo will be doing really well this year. They have any titles more fitted for this area and this will be the necessary push to make Switch reach 160 millions.