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10,000,000 without electricity in Ukraine because of Russist terrorism.
Solution: step up Western support for anti-air and infrastructure repairs. At home, push for green energy, green industry, and ending any support we can for these tyrannical regimes if mitigating (or even reversing) climate change isn’t enough.
Just remember, the enemy isn’t Russians, it’s Putin’s regime and the Russist supporters.



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Russians go full nuclear jihad:



Jumpin said:

10,000,000 without electricity in Ukraine because of Russist terrorism.
Solution: step up Western support for anti-air and infrastructure repairs. At home, push for green energy, green industry, and ending any support we can for these tyrannical regimes if mitigating (or even reversing) climate change isn’t enough.
Just remember, the enemy isn’t Russians, it’s Putin’s regime and the Russist supporters.

Or an instant solution, give Ukraine what it needs to target Russian energy infrastructure. Then warn Russia that the next time it attacks energy infrastructure, its own will be attacked as well.



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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Jumpin said:

10,000,000 without electricity in Ukraine because of Russist terrorism.
Solution: step up Western support for anti-air and infrastructure repairs. At home, push for green energy, green industry, and ending any support we can for these tyrannical regimes if mitigating (or even reversing) climate change isn’t enough.
Just remember, the enemy isn’t Russians, it’s Putin’s regime and the Russist supporters.

Or an instant solution, give Ukraine what it needs to target Russian energy infrastructure. Then warn Russia that the next time it attacks energy infrastructure, its own will be attacked as well.

Sounds like a great way to start WW3!

Seriously, russia has nuclear weapons and putin is a bit of a nut. I highly doubt he'd use them while the war is contained in Ukraine, but as soon as russian cities start getting hit all bets are off.

Last edited by Ka-pi96 - on 19 November 2022

Ka-pi96 said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

Or an instant solution, give Ukraine what it needs to target Russian energy infrastructure. Then warn Russia that the next time it attacks energy infrastructure, its own will be attacked as well.

Sounds like a great way to start WW3!

Seriously, russia has nuclear weapons and putin is a bit of a nut. I highly doubt he'd use them while the war is contained in Ukraine, but as soon as russian cities start getting hit all bets are off.

As soon as they start getting hit! That's why I say warn Russia.

Same should have happened before Ferbruary 23rd, if NATO had stated an attack against Ukraine is an attack against NATO, none of this would have happened.



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Jumpin said:

10,000,000 without electricity in Ukraine because of Russist terrorism.
Solution: step up Western support for anti-air and infrastructure repairs. At home, push for green energy, green industry, and ending any support we can for these tyrannical regimes if mitigating (or even reversing) climate change isn’t enough.
Just remember, the enemy isn’t Russians, it’s Putin’s regime and the Russist supporters.

Or an instant solution, give Ukraine what it needs to target Russian energy infrastructure. Then warn Russia that the next time it attacks energy infrastructure, its own will be attacked as well.

Answering war crimes with war crimes sounds pretty stupid to be honest. It's not only inhuman and against all "rules of war" but also an easy to justify reason in Russia to really use nuclear bombs against Ukraine. The support for that in Russia to finish Ukraine in a few moments would be huge. 



I repeat the word ‘warn’

just like they warned them that if they use nuclear they will respond militarily, had there been no warning, Russia would have used nuclear already

the same should have been done before the war, and now with destroying energy infrastructure



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

Ukraine has technically already targeted Russian cities such as Belgorod and since Russia considers Crimea to be theirs, Sevastopol too, and if we're taking the piss, Kherson/Melitopol/Donetsk/Luhansk, Lol. But those are a grey line, however, Belgorod shouldn't be and even Crimea shouldn't be, but the retaliation has always been usual Russian stuff.

We should be giving Ukraine ATACMS so they can penetrate deeper behind enemy lines and yes, deeper into Russia, but I don't agree that they should use it for civilian infrastructure and there is very little strategic value in attacking civilian energy infrastructure like Russia is doing, it's doing absolutely fuck all to slow down Ukraine's military, it's doing nothing to hurt Ukraine's domestic support.

Even aside from a moral standpoint, it's simply a waste, if we're thinking tactically, the only reason to do it would be an attempt to break public support for the government who dragged them into war but I've absolutely zero confidence that happens in Russia of all places, they're clearly half of them terrified of their own government and the other half supporting them in the Nazi campaign.

Ukraine should get ATACMS to use deeper behind lines but if they use it on Russia, it would likely be (and should be) against military infrastructure (barracks, rail lines, oil depots, airfields, etc). But sadly, some countries are still too scared about giving Ukraine stronger stuff.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 20 November 2022