Nato secretary general Mark Rutte says a bit more on the deal.

"This is really big. This is really big." He says Trump called him on Thursday and said he wanted to give Ukraine what it needed to have, but asked Europeans to pay for it, “which is totally logical.” "This is, again, Europeans stepping up."

Rutte says he has been in touch with “many countries” intending to be part of the deal, and namechecks Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, the UK, the Netherlands, and Canada. “And this is only the first wave, there will be more,” he says.

He adds that Nato will work through its systems to “make sure that we know what Ukrainians need” He says: “It will mean that Ukraine can get his hands on really massive numbers of military equipment, both for air defence, but also missiles, ammunition.”

Trump confirms new weapons deal for Ukraine and threatens ‘severe’ tariffs on Russia if war doesn’t end – Europe live

Still pretty vague, no $ amount stated or no specifics on what weapons, sounds like nothing has even been decided yet in terms of what weapons we'll be purchasing on behalf of Ukraine, aside from in the short term some Patriot missiles. It's a nice development but I need to know more before celebrating, words are just words under the Trump admin, I won't start celebrating until I see actual powerful equipment handed over to Ukraine because Trump can always backtrack at the last second before anything is actually sent.

Frustratingly it sounds like they don't even know specifics yet, there are no concrete details. Are we now going to spend the next few months debating which countries will purchase the weapons for Ukraine, who funds what, and writing up a plan of what weapons to purchase before we even see the first major weapon packages from America to Ukraine?

Europe needs to act fast before America changes it mind, I want to see huge and deadly weapon packages purchased and announced in the next couple weeks, preferably days, and not months, that only gives Russia more time to bullshit Trump into going back on his deal under the fake promise of peace, we need these weapons signed and sent ASAP.

And I'll say again, Europe needs to grow a spine and take Russia's entire assets now to fund this.

I'm not opposed to increasing defence spending, I'm not opposed to buying American weapons on behalf of Ukraine, but we have to be realistic, increasing defence spending and buying overpriced American weapons at the same time, is going to cost us a fucking fortune, it means cuts will have to be made, often those cuts are made to public services, that will result in angry citizens in countries and a breeding ground to enable the far-right to get in power, the far-right will then block aid to Ukraine completely.

Why the fuck are we paying for shit when we have $200bn worth of Russian assets at our disposal, it's absolutely braindead and shooting ourselves in the foot, and again, I'm fully in favour of increasing defence spending and paying for Ukraine's military but we literally have the opportunity to pay for America's weapons using Russia's blood money instead of our own so lets fucking do it which means less cuts will be made to our own countries to fund these initiatives because Russia is doing half the funding for us.

It's absolutely pointless to hold onto this money thinking it will convince Russia to stop, it won't, Russia has already written it off, and it's short-sighted to hold onto the money to Ukraine's restoration, they'll be no restoration if Ukraine loses, we need to focus on Ukraine winning first and foremost and then we can cross the reconstruction bridge when we come to it.

Take the fucking assets already, $200bn to spend on American weapons.

Better buying them from USA than doing nothing but I really can't hear that "Europe is stepping up" stuff anymore. Europe already paid MUCH more for this war and that with a weaker economy. European countries paid already more than 100 billion just for Ukrainian refugees. That's already as much as USA invested overall.

If you take everything into account, Europe "invested" probably 3x as much as USA and that with a weaker economy.

Europe does need to step up the military equipment deliveries but it shouldn't be a situation where USA does everything just to profit from this war but that's pretty much how it feels now. USA wants to sell billions of weaponry, USA wants raw material deals, USA wants this and that...

So yes, Europe needs to invest way more in weaponry but USA also needs to invest much more if we talk about what's possible for everyone. 

Then again I just had a thought that the 5% NATO agreement comes with the clause that any contributions to Ukraine are counted in valuating whether a country is hitting the 5% threshold, so it might be easy for some countries to quickly hit the 5% threshold by simply buying a shit ton of American equipment on behalf of Ukraine without actually having to massively ramp up their own military industries.

But that 5% agreement isn't a rule, it's not a demand, it's just a gentleman's agreement, it isn't enforceable in any way.

We know that, Rutte is just blowing smoke up Trump/American's asses.

We should never count on America to do the right thing simply because it is the right thing to do, they often only help if there's something in it for them or a way for them to profit. It shouldn't be a situation where America only helps if they profit from the situation but it sadly is, America is led by soulless capitalist assholes.

America is no true ally to Europe, but Ukraine's survival is more important and there's no other choice at this stage, this is why Europe should instead be funding this using Russia's assets, and in the long term Europe needs to wean themselves off America. Maybe the next President will rip up Ukraine's mineral deal at least but another dickhead like Trump is highly likely in the future.

"I go home and tell the first Lady, I spoke to Vladimir (Putin) today and we had a wonderful conversation. She said: "Oh really? Another city was just hit..."

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 14 July 2025 at 17:01

Asked how far he’s willing to go if Putin escalates, Trump dodged: “Don’t ask me that. I want to settle this war. Americans aren’t dying in it—but many people are. We want it resolved. A strong Europe is a very good thing. We want to protect our country.”

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 14 July 2025 at 16:54

“This is all talk, and then missiles hit Kyiv and kill people,” Trump said. He confirmed that 17 Patriot systems (unclear if he meant systems or launchers/components) are being prepped for Ukraine and could arrive “within days.” NATO Sec-Gen Rutte: “If I were Putin, I’d consider coming to the table”

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 14 July 2025 at 16:52

There is not a fucking chance he meant 17 systems, Lmao. He almost certainly meant 17 launchers, a typical Patriot battery has 6-8 launchers, a radar and command post, so 17 launchers would be enough for 2-3 Patriot systems/batteries. If he meant 17 systems/batteries that would be like 102-144 launchers, Lmao.

But I also wouldn't be surprised if he meant 17 missiles.

What I would give credit for even with America profiting of the situation is if there is truly no restrictions on what weapons can be purchased, there were always restrictions under Biden but if there's like absolutely no restrictions as long as Europe can pay for it (aside from obvious shit like nukes, Lol) then that would be a significant development.

During a phone call between Putin and Trump on July 3rd, Putin told Trump that he was not going to stop and would continue attacking for the next 60 days.

Today is July 14th, 10 days after that call. Trump has now stated that he intends to wait for the next 50 days before imposing tariffs.

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) 14 July 2025 at 16:46

‼️ In a July 3 call, Putin told Trump he planned to escalate attacks and push toward full control of key Ukrainian regions within 60 days, according to Axios.

Now, Trump is giving Putin 50 days before the new sanctions start…

Carte Blanche for Russia!!

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— MAKS 25 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 14 July 2025 at 17:09

Oh okay so he is buying time for Putin because Putin already told him he will be attacking for 60 days, Lol.