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Agree that joycons is small but its easy to hold and overtime u get use to it and it feels like a ordinary controller. My hands are big enough to fit 4 joycons ? and i dont have issue using it. 

If it was thicker it would be bulkier. That would lose its charm as a portable device. Making it thicker means, weight of the console increases. 

Who knows, switch 2 might be thicker. 

jonathanalis said:

Switch is 13.9 mm thick. However, I think it should have been around 30 to 50% thicker. The joy-con would be thicker as well.

Here my reasons, which I divided on pro points for joy-con, pro points for the main unit, and con points:

The pros: an

On joy-con

  • Joy-con drift: Yeah, the main build issue of Nintendo switch would have been solved if switch was thicker. Switch is the console with smaller volume of the analog sticks box compenent. So, they had many restrictions building it, what caused the issues on the analog stick box, what caused the drifts. If they had more space, they could avoid this issue entirely.
  • Joy-con communication issues: Early joy-con had communication issues with the main module because of the weird positioning of the communication antena. Fitting a small space was the reason. 
  • Joy-con wabbling: Yeah, there are complaings about joy-con wabbling when attached to switch. If it was thicker, the contact area of the trails would be broader, and it would feel solider in hands.
  • Ergonomy: Joy-con is very small, many have incredibly difficulty to hold in hands, in very ackward positioning. If it was a little more thicker there would be more space for holding on the side and back, and could be a little less difficult to hold for big hands. Also, It give freedom for have rounder edges, making it more ergonomic in general, even when attached to the main unit.
  • Joy-con battery: With larger physical space, there was the opportunity to fit a larger battery, and therefore, more time playing without needing to recharge.
  • More gameplay capabilities: The right joy-con has features that the left dont have, space limitation might be one of the causes. This fact impacted the gameplay possibilities for some games. For instance, we cant have multiplayer games that use the infrared sensor on both joy-cons. Also, more features could have been implemented, like audio output.

On the main unit:

  • Larger battery: More physical space for fitting a larger main battery, a common issue users complaing that could be better.
  • Better cooling system: With increased internal volume, there was possibility for better cooling system.
  • Games look better: As consequence of a better cooling system, the clock could be pushed harder on the handheld mode. As the development of games is limited by the handheld mode, they have this configuration as development base. If the base configuration has a higher clock, and therefore, is more capable. 

The cons:

  • It would kinda lose a little of its sleek design. However, it doesnt seems that this is a significant selling point.
  • Would be bigger, bulkier. Harder to fit on spaces. Switch Lite wouldnt be that Lite. But 30~50% might not be that significant. Still less thicker than gameboy or folded 3DS. 
  • Joy-con grip would have to be different. Same for the dock. No big deal.
  • Increased weight. Maybe the most significant issue.

Given the pros and cons, I consider the pros are far more significant. Therefore, the Nintendo Switch would indeed be thicker. Yeah, some bold speculations, but still.

Thoughts?

jonathanalis said:

Switch is 13.9 mm thick. However, I think it should have been around 30 to 50% thicker. The joy-con would be thicker as well.

Here my reasons, which I divided on pro points for joy-con, pro points for the main unit, and con points:

The pros:

On joy-con

  • Joy-con drift: Yeah, the main build issue of Nintendo switch would have been solved if switch was thicker. Switch is the console with smaller volume of the analog sticks box compenent. So, they had many restrictions building it, what caused the issues on the analog stick box, what caused the drifts. If they had more space, they could avoid this issue entirely.
  • Joy-con communication issues: Early joy-con had communication issues with the main module because of the weird positioning of the communication antena. Fitting a small space was the reason. 
  • Joy-con wabbling: Yeah, there are complaings about joy-con wabbling when attached to switch. If it was thicker, the contact area of the trails would be broader, and it would feel solider in hands.
  • Ergonomy: Joy-con is very small, many have incredibly difficulty to hold in hands, in very ackward positioning. If it was a little more thicker there would be more space for holding on the side and back, and could be a little less difficult to hold for big hands. Also, It give freedom for have rounder edges, making it more ergonomic in general, even when attached to the main unit.
  • Joy-con battery: With larger physical space, there was the opportunity to fit a larger battery, and therefore, more time playing without needing to recharge.
  • More gameplay capabilities: The right joy-con has features that the left dont have, space limitation might be one of the causes. This fact impacted the gameplay possibilities for some games. For instance, we cant have multiplayer games that use the infrared sensor on both joy-cons. Also, more features could have been implemented, like audio output.

On the main unit:

  • Larger battery: More physical space for fitting a larger main battery, a common issue users complaing that could be better.
  • Better cooling system: With increased internal volume, there was possibility for better cooling system.
  • Games look better: As consequence of a better cooling system, the clock could be pushed harder on the handheld mode. As the development of games is limited by the handheld mode, they have this configuration as development base. If the base configuration has a higher clock, and therefore, is more capable. 

The cons:

  • It would kinda lose a little of its sleek design. However, it doesnt seems that this is a significant selling point.
  • Would be bigger, bulkier. Harder to fit on spaces. Switch Lite wouldnt be that Lite. But 30~50% might not be that significant. Still less thicker than gameboy or folded 3DS. 
  • Joy-con grip would have to be different. Same for the dock. No big deal.
  • Increased weight. Maybe the most significant issue.

Given the pros and cons, I consider the pros are far more significant. Therefore, the Nintendo Switch would indeed be thicker. Yeah, some bold speculations, but still.

Thoughts?



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Last edited by dane007 - on 05 February 2022

I know the Joycons drift but just get used to it. It's not like Playstation and XBOX have the same innovation. Remember how people were against motion controls? Well because of them motion controls are now dead, if only they accepted it the Wii would have really changed gaming.



dane007 said:

jonathanalis said:

Switch is 13.9 mm thick. However, I think it should have been around 30 to 50% thicker. The joy-con would be thicker as well.

Here my reasons, which I divided on pro points for joy-con, pro points for the main unit, and con points:

The pros: an

On joy-con

  • Joy-con drift: Yeah, the main build issue of Nintendo switch would have been solved if switch was thicker. Switch is the console with smaller volume of the analog sticks box compenent. So, they had many restrictions building it, what caused the issues on the analog stick box, what caused the drifts. If they had more space, they could avoid this issue entirely.
  • Joy-con communication issues: Early joy-con had communication issues with the main module because of the weird positioning of the communication antena. Fitting a small space was the reason. 
  • Joy-con wabbling: Yeah, there are complaings about joy-con wabbling when attached to switch. If it was thicker, the contact area of the trails would be broader, and it would feel solider in hands.
  • Ergonomy: Joy-con is very small, many have incredibly difficulty to hold in hands, in very ackward positioning. If it was a little more thicker there would be more space for holding on the side and back, and could be a little less difficult to hold for big hands. Also, It give freedom for have rounder edges, making it more ergonomic in general, even when attached to the main unit.
  • Joy-con battery: With larger physical space, there was the opportunity to fit a larger battery, and therefore, more time playing without needing to recharge.
  • More gameplay capabilities: The right joy-con has features that the left dont have, space limitation might be one of the causes. This fact impacted the gameplay possibilities for some games. For instance, we cant have multiplayer games that use the infrared sensor on both joy-cons. Also, more features could have been implemented, like audio output.

On the main unit:

  • Larger battery: More physical space for fitting a larger main battery, a common issue users complaing that could be better.
  • Better cooling system: With increased internal volume, there was possibility for better cooling system.
  • Games look better: As consequence of a better cooling system, the clock could be pushed harder on the handheld mode. As the development of games is limited by the handheld mode, they have this configuration as development base. If the base configuration has a higher clock, and therefore, is more capable. 

The cons:

  • It would kinda lose a little of its sleek design. However, it doesnt seems that this is a significant selling point.
  • Would be bigger, bulkier. Harder to fit on spaces. Switch Lite wouldnt be that Lite. But 30~50% might not be that significant. Still less thicker than gameboy or folded 3DS. 
  • Joy-con grip would have to be different. Same for the dock. No big deal.
  • Increased weight. Maybe the most significant issue.

Given the pros and cons, I consider the pros are far more significant. Therefore, the Nintendo Switch would indeed be thicker. Yeah, some bold speculations, but still.

Thoughts?


Agree that joycons is small but its easy to hold and overtime u get use to it and it feels like a ordinary controller. My hands are big enough to fit 4 joycons 😂 and i dont have issue using it. 

If it was thicker it would be bulkier. That would lose its charm as a portable device. Making it thicker means, weight of the console increases. 

Who knows, switch 2 might be thicker. 

Why are you always writing your answer in the box above the other poster's answer?



Yeah, it probably should've been a little thicker. The Switch already can't fit in people's pockets, so I don't see the problem with making it a little bigger. It would probably have helped with battery, grip, and maybe even cooling.



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I wouldn't have any problem with a thicker Switch, if it's more powerful then.

Steam Deck is 669g (more than a iPad Pro), while Switch OLED is 421g. I think there's still space for a bit more weight for a portable system.





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