So your suspecting a constant -50% each year. Even thou this year switch is already down -60%

I just copied his thing, and added 0.05 so it crosses 160. That was his question.

Lets just remember, every time people have betted against the NS1, for the most part have been wrong, and the Switch always defied traditional statistics.

Everyone in here is giving all these stats, predictions and % increase/decrease all based on past consoles/cycles, however, up until now the Switch has defied all of those.

I would not be surprised if NS1 goes well past 160 million

I was being generous for shits and giggles to prove a point that it cant reach 160m. If you really want to know how i fell, the switch wont get past 158m.

Companies can't lie to shareholders, or make false or misleading statements;

• False or misleading statements: It is illegal for companies to make false or misleading statements or omit material facts that could deceive investors.
• Material facts: This applies to "material facts"—information that could influence a reasonable investor's decision. Examples include the company's financial health, performance, and significant risks.
• Executive accountability: Legislation like the Sarbanes-Oxley Act holds top executives personally responsible for misreporting financial information.
• Disclosure requirements: Companies are required to disclose a significant amount of information, such as financial statements, business descriptions, and known risks, in specific, time-sensitive filings with regulatory bodies like the SEC.
• Prohibition of selective disclosure: Companies cannot selectively disclose non-public information to certain parties, such as analysts, which could put other investors at a disadvantage. 

• Fraudulent statements: Deliberately providing false or misleading information about finances, operations, or projections can be considered fraud.
• Misleading employer communications: Statements to employees that are likely to cause them to buy or hold company stock can also be subject to fraud liability if misleading, notes this Villanova University Law Review article. 

• Investor lawsuits: Shareholders who suffer financial loss due to these fraudulent statements can sue the company.
• Regulatory action: Regulatory bodies can take action against companies that violate these laws.
• Loss of stock value: If a company's misleading statements are proven to have artificially inflated stock prices, the resulting drop can also lead to legal action, according to The New York Times. 

Strange that we think Sony would risk all that trouble to say they shipped 4 million PS2, a console that was already legendary in terms of sales without the extra 4 million. 

Unfortunately, claiming that your piece of plastic sold a bazillion on a website 10 years after you stopped selling your piece of plastic doesn't fall into any of those, because investors today don't care about how much your decades old piece of plastic sold.

Claiming that it sold a bazillion back when it allegedly happened, though, would be a crime if it was a lie. Funny that Sony didn't say a thing when it allegedly happened.

Atari could post on Twitter today that they sold 200m whatever-console, no investor would sue them saying they were mislead into investing on them.

Ofc it hurts the company if they lying. I mean by your logic why did Sony stop at 160m when they could have just come out and say we sold 180 million? If there is no consequences 10 years later, why stop at 160m?

Because they want people to believe.

It will only hurt them, —from a PR standpoint, if we can actually verify the information to catch their lie.

Chances of investors seeking legal action for that today, though, are zero.

I don't see Nintendo decreasing the quite high price tag for the Switch 2 any time soon, if ever. Which is why I firmly believe they will keep the Switch 1 around as the budget option for quite some time. Enough to make it pass 160m eventually. The Switch 1 is still a great gaming machine after all. I can see a lot of people still wanting to get one even a few years from now. It will still be able to play all the classics and a whole lot of indie titles with simple graphics. Which is why I think it will sell better in the future than some people seem to believe.

Not that it matters or anything. =P

The idea that Sony is lying about the sales numbers doesn't make sense. Even if you want to use the argument that "its not illegal to lie about them now 10+ years after discontinuation". Sony was still reporting PS2 numbers after that 155 Million mark, just combining it with PS3's just to make the PS3's sales numbers look better at the time. Based on those numbers and reports from Sony people have done the math that puts the PS2's sales numbers anywhere between 158.9-161.9M, which is right around the 160M range which falls completely in line with the 160M sold figure.

So you'd also have to claim that Sony was lying about their PS3/PS2 numbers during a time period while those consoles were still active, which IS illegal and highly unlikely.

All the evidence points towards the PS2 being around 160 Million and no lying has occured.

Do you know what I don’t like about the dispute about whether Sony sold 160 million units? It just looks like you aren’t confident. It makes it seem like you don’t believe in the power of the Switch or Nintendo. It taints this whole dang thread. That is the point of this thread, after all: getting to 160 million units. It isn’t even about beating the PS2. So let’s have some faith and confidence in Nintendo. They’ve got this…or they don’t. And at the end of the day, who really cares. It’s not like the Switch outselling the PS2 means one is better than the other. It’s apples and oranges, and not just because of the whole handheld vs console argument. Anyway, at least all this arguing back and forth is getting those daily VGC numbers up. Great job, team!