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angrypoolman said:
xl-klaudkil said:

That would be funny to see i agree.

I think it's only fair. Going from 155 to 160 wouldnt exactly be unprecedented

What do you mean by that? Nintendo just announced 155.37M in shipments 3 days ago. If they were to come right out and announce 160M now it would be unprecedented.



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Blood_Tears said:
angrypoolman said:

I think it's only fair. Going from 155 to 160 wouldnt exactly be unprecedented

What do you mean by that? Nintendo just announced 155.37M in shipments 3 days ago. If they were to come right out and announce 160M now it would be unprecedented.

Well maybe they should stop releasing sales figures and tell us what they ended up selling at a later time. Maybe theyll say they sold 161.0 



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angrypoolman said:
ireadtabloids said:

I think they wanted it to overtake the DS and made sure they didn’t miss that milestone.
I suspect they don’t think going for 160 million serves their business unless things have changed for them internally already.

Why would they care about passing DS? I feel like it would make sense to go for 160 if you were interested at all in passing something. 

I have to say, I do think Nintendo "cares" the question just is how much? Probably not a large amount. But i do think they care enough to do something to make it happen if they think they are within striking distance. The problem is that their hands are somewhat tied in a sense. The moves they are obligsted to make as a company are moves that are going to maximize profits, not moves to chase a record. So its tough. 

I think ultimately, if they did care enough, they can sell the switch as they have been per usual for this year. In 2027 they can discontinue the home console but keep the lite as a cheap option, say like $100 portable device that plays switch 1 games. I can see that surviving on the market for a few years since its not something that is really directly competing with the switch 2. If they handled it that way, i think they could get to 160m with relative ease. 

That’s also my reasoning. If they reach 158 million units anyway, it wouldn’t make much sense not to give that small extra push to take it over the line. This push would cost Nintendo nothing; on the contrary, additional software and accessory sales from these new Switch owners would generate even more revenue.

And the marketing label “Successor to the most successful console” wouldn’t be entirely worthless either.



Here's some charts to supplement what I was talking about the other night:

That puts into picture just how fast the DS declined after it was replaced. Switch shipments did decline at a slightly slower rate in 2025 than the DS did in 2011 (-60.8% vs. -65.2%), but it is also worth noting that the DS was replaced earlier in its replacement year than the Switch was (March vs. June) so the Switch had a much softer decline in Q1 2025 than the DS did in Q1 2011. Still, the Switch was already selling a lot less in the lead-up to its replacement than the DS was. The Switch peaked earlier in its life than the DS (in most places; more on this in a bit). And when you align them to their replacement years, you see that the DS managed better average sales in the time prior to its replacement (5.78M/quarter, vs. 4.61M/quarter for the Switch), but the Switch had the advantage of a longer life cycle (33 quarters before replacement, vs. 25 for the DS), the latter of which eventually put the Switch in the lead.

Looking at the regional breakdown we also see some interesting data. The DS may have peaked late globally, but that wasn't the case in Japan:

Japan is the region keeping the Switch's post-replacement situation from being worse than it already is. The DS peaked much earlier there than elsewhere, dropping below 4M for the two years after its very strong peak in 2006-07. After the 3DS came out, though, the DS cratered hard, dropping over 77% in 2011 from 2010. In 2012 it sold less than 70k units. In fact, Nintendo only shipped 20k DS units to Japan in Q1 2012 and another 10k in Q2 before ceasing shipments entirely. Meanwhile, the Switch is still doing decently in Japan. While it dropped off another 60+% in January, its sales volume is still far more comparable to that of the GBA, making it the only Nintendo system to not completely die off in short order in Japan this century after having an official official replacement released. Still, at its current rate of decline, it might do only half a million this year.

Now for the U.S.:

Here we see a sales curve for the DS that more closely resembles global shipments. The DS peaked rather late in the U.S., with a slow start and sales ramping up after first the Lite and then continuing to grow for several years afterward. While sales did drop off a lot in 2011 after the 3DS was released, the DS was still doing quite well for a while, enough to where it actually had better legs than most other Nintendo systems, both in terms of absolute numbers and share of lifetime sales.

Meanwhile, the Switch peaked much earlier. It's sales in the three-year period of 2022-24 weren't even half of what the DS's were in 2008-10. Its sales in 2025 were down over 60% YoY, and were not only nearly 70% less than what the DS sold in 2011, but also considerably less than what the DS sold in 2012.

If both shipment data and VGC numbers are any indication, Europe is pretty much the same as the U.S. when it comes to how the Switch has been faring post-replacement versus the DS.

In summary, there is really good reason to expect that the Switch's sales will not be enough to propel it to the 160M mark. While the Switch is faring better than the DS in Japan, that is more than offset by worst post-replacement sales in other major markets. So, I'm still sticking with 157-158M.

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Shadow1980 said:

Here's some charts to supplement what I was talking about the other night:

That puts into picture just how fast the DS declined after it was replaced. Switch shipments did decline at a slightly slower rate in 2025 than the DS did in 2011 (-60.8% vs. -65.2%), but it is also worth noting that the DS was replaced earlier in its replacement year than the Switch was (March vs. June) so the Switch had a much softer decline in Q1 2025 than the DS did in Q1 2011. Still, the Switch was already selling a lot less in the lead-up to its replacement than the DS was. The Switch peaked earlier in its life than the DS (in most places; more on this in a bit). And when you align them to their replacement years, you see that the DS managed better average sales in the time prior to its replacement (5.78M/quarter, vs. 4.61M/quarter for the Switch), but the Switch had the advantage of a longer life cycle (33 quarters before replacement, vs. 25 for the DS), the latter of which eventually put the Switch in the lead.

Looking at the regional breakdown we also see some interesting data. The DS may have peaked late globally, but that wasn't the case in Japan:

Japan is the region keeping the Switch's post-replacement situation from being worse than it already is. The DS peaked much earlier there than elsewhere, dropping below 4M for the two years after its very strong peak in 2006-07. After the 3DS came out, though, the DS cratered hard, dropping over 77% in 2011 from 2010. In 2012 it sold less than 70k units. In fact, Nintendo only shipped 20k DS units to Japan in Q1 2012 and another 10k in Q2 before ceasing shipments entirely. Meanwhile, the Switch is still doing decently in Japan. While it dropped off another 60+% in January, its sales volume is still far more comparable to that of the GBA, making it the only Nintendo system to not completely die off in short order in Japan this century after having an official official replacement released. Still, at its current rate of decline, it might do only half a million this year.

Now for the U.S.:

Here we see a sales curve for the DS that more closely resembles global shipments. The DS peaked rather late in the U.S., with a slow start and sales ramping up after first the Lite and then continuing to grow for several years afterward. While sales did drop off a lot in 2011 after the 3DS was released, the DS was still doing quite well for a while, enough to where it actually had better legs than most other Nintendo systems, both in terms of absolute numbers and share of lifetime sales.

Meanwhile, the Switch peaked much earlier. It's sales in the three-year period of 2022-24 weren't even half of what the DS's were in 2008-10. Its sales in 2025 were down over 60% YoY, and were not only nearly 70% less than what the DS sold in 2011, but also considerably less than what the DS sold in 2012.

If both shipment data and VGC numbers are any indication, Europe is pretty much the same as the U.S. when it comes to how the Switch has been faring post-replacement versus the DS.

In summary, there is really good reason to expect that the Switch's sales will not be enough to propel it to the 160M mark. While the Switch is faring better than the DS in Japan, that is more than offset by worst post-replacement sales in other major markets. So, I'm still sticking with >157M but

It's a vert deep analysis, congratulations. My brains agree with you, the arguments are strong, but my heart...

I have a dream... Nintendo reaching +160M without giving "final number" and a eternal war of fanboys bragging about "my +160M is better than yours"... Infinite engagement and laughs. No one loses, and we all win laughing at retarded console wars.



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From next financial year forward (1 April 2026), Nintendo will announce it will only report on combined sales for Switch1 and Switch2 going forward instead of separately.

Then 10 years from now, Nintendo will post an update that Switch1 actually sold over 161 million.



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Hate to say it, but it looks the Switch will just fall short.
I was expecting better sales this holiday for Switch Lite, mainly because we've seen that consoles don't get price cuts anymore so I figured the Switch Lite would act as a budget model. But the sales were about a million under what I was thinking so that's probably it. Full props to Nintendo if they manage to leg it out but I can't expect it at this point.



NS1 is down around 70% YoY in JP so far. Not looking great. Should have a clearer picture once Circana and EU data release. All-in-all, it looks like NS1 is seeing a not-so-subtle drop following its replacement— that’s great news for NS2, but not super great if you want 160mil NS1 systems sold.



Tober said:

From next financial year forward (1 April 2026), Nintendo will announce it will only report on combined sales for Switch1 and Switch2 going forward instead of separately.

Then 10 years from now, Nintendo will post an update that Switch1 actually sold over 161 million.

You forgot the picture of the "final production unit" with 161,239,413 on it ...