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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Nintendo quarterly sales update (To September 30th 2021) Switch 92.87m

With Mario Kart 8 bundle being Nintendo's Black Friday deal for the 4th year in a row we should see another strong holiday quarter for MK8 Deluxe sales lol. That 38.74m is definitely going above 40m.



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With this being the middle of the NS' life MK8 will likely hit 50m on NS alone.



So if the Switch is in the middle of it's life, we could divide it into three phases.
2017-2019 - early life
2020-2021 - middle life
2022-2024 - late life

So maybe holiday 2024 would be when the next system launches. Previously I thought March or holiday 2024. If what they say is true it could be holiday 2024 or March 2025.
If they say the Switch is in the middle of it's life next year again, then it's clearly just PR talk to keep sales high for as long as possible.



Kakadu18 said:

So if the Switch is in the middle of it's life, we could divide it into three phases.
2017-2019 - early life
2020-2021 - middle life
2022-2024 - late life

So maybe holiday 2024 would be when the next system launches. Previously I thought March or holiday 2024. If what they say is true it could be holiday 2024 or March 2025.
If they say the Switch is in the middle of it's life next year again, then it's clearly just PR talk to keep sales high for as long as possible.

It's hard to take statements like "in the middle of it's life" to mean anything. What do they class as life, until successor, until discontinued? How long is the period of "middle"? is 70% of the way through still middle? is 80% through still middle and only last 20% end?

It's just not concrete enough to make any meaningful deduction about it. Plus there is zero reason for Nintendo to say Switch isn't in the middle of it's life and is "nearing the end of it's life". Even if it were true.

You could have said 3DS was in the middle of it's life in 2016 and been correct, it wasn't discontinued until September 2020.



One more Quarter and Wii will be toast



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ShadowLink93 said:

One more Quarter and Wii will be toast

Wow the Wii fade out pretty quickly actually



The Switch had twice as many years with YoY growth in a row as the Wii.



RolStoppable said:
Kakadu18 said:

So if the Switch is in the middle of it's life, we could divide it into three phases.
2017-2019 - early life
2020-2021 - middle life
2022-2024 - late life

So maybe holiday 2024 would be when the next system launches. Previously I thought March or holiday 2024. If what they say is true it could be holiday 2024 or March 2025.
If they say the Switch is in the middle of it's life next year again, then it's clearly just PR talk to keep sales high for as long as possible.

Nintendo makes these statements in response to investors who are asking for Nintendo's business outlook. If Nintendo still says "middle of its life" in a year's time, then that means no Switch successor before 2025.

You have to remember that this console has yet to receive a price cut or even a big Black Friday deal. It's also making higher profits than any console before it, so Nintendo is in no rush to put out a successor. By now it's clear that Switch can easily go seven years before it needs to be replaced, but I guess what makes people so hesitant to believe in an even longer life is that it would mean that Switch has more longevity than the PS4. But Switch is already well on its way to prove its better longevity. At this point in the lifecycle, the PS4 had received two price cuts and was having huge Black Friday deals. Switch gets by without these things while selling more than the PS4 on top of that.

The curious thing is that Nintendo's roadmap lists a Switch successor for the year 20XX, so what does this mean, I wonder. They may attempt to break the traditional console lifecycle altogether when they don't commit to a date in the 2020s. They could do this by launching more powerful hardware that is an extension of the Switch family instead of an actual successor with its own branding and marketing.

The original cause for console generations were technological advancements and the need among console manufacturers to be in the same ballpark as their competition to receive the same third party games. But most of the major third party publishers have shafted Nintendo for a long time now, refusing to put their games on Nintendo hardware even when the hardware was capable of running the games. That's why there's no obligation for Nintendo to stick with this old playbook, so they are free to establish a new order. It's much like home consoles and handheld consoles used to be separate devices due to tremendously different technological requirements, but eventually Nintendo asked themselves if the separation must continue when the technological obstacle will cease to exist. The question then becomes if it's still necessary in this time and age to do a hard reset of the installed base every six to seven years.

Makes sense and could turn out to be true. A hard reset has been necessary in the past, but now it wouldn't really bring much benefit.



Kakadu18 said:

The Switch had twice as many years with YoY growth in a row as the Wii.

The Wii Peaked in it's second full yeah but the Switch peaked in it's fourth. Peaking in it's fourth year has made the Switch such a sales Beast.



Despite the relatively Disappointing hardware Sales this quarter Nintendo only dropped their forecast to 24m. That means they plan on shipping 15.7m consoles in the next two quarters, something like 11.5m for Q3 and 4.2m for Q4. Also Software is only 7m behind last year after Q2 with a much better line up this year for Q3 and Q4. There is a real possibility that Software will eclipse last fiscal year, the number to beat is 230m.