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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS5 Sales Top 12 Million - Global Hardware September 19-25

DonFerrari on 14 October 2021
curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:

Considering stock constraings that doesn't tell us much. Even more when there is a lot of people buying in different regions.

I doubt the number of people importing from other regions is high enough to significantly skew the proportions.

We can`t be sure. On the Japan thread we had PS5 basically selling 1M units but 500k SW, one of the big suspicions is that most of those purchases are for exports. But again the main point on my end is that with supply constrains we can`t really infer anything, Xbox Series X is sold out in basically every market so we don`t know if the supply was enough would the percentage increase for USA or would decrease.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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curl-6 on 14 October 2021
DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

I doubt the number of people importing from other regions is high enough to significantly skew the proportions.

We can`t be sure. On the Japan thread we had PS5 basically selling 1M units but 500k SW, one of the big suspicions is that most of those purchases are for exports. But again the main point on my end is that with supply constrains we can`t really infer anything, Xbox Series X is sold out in basically every market so we don`t know if the supply was enough would the percentage increase for USA or would decrease.

Japan is one country though, globally is a different story. And wouldn't MS just be shipping more to the US and less to other places if they could sell more that way?



DonFerrari on 14 October 2021
curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:

We can`t be sure. On the Japan thread we had PS5 basically selling 1M units but 500k SW, one of the big suspicions is that most of those purchases are for exports. But again the main point on my end is that with supply constrains we can`t really infer anything, Xbox Series X is sold out in basically every market so we don`t know if the supply was enough would the percentage increase for USA or would decrease.

Japan is one country though, globally is a different story. And wouldn't MS just be shipping more to the US and less to other places if they could sell more that way?

they are 100% sold out for Series X, and well S is available in plenty of stores.

And I could turn your argument on you saying USA is a single country as well =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

curl-6 on 14 October 2021
DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

Japan is one country though, globally is a different story. And wouldn't MS just be shipping more to the US and less to other places if they could sell more that way?

they are 100% sold out for Series X, and well S is available in plenty of stores.

And I could turn your argument on you saying USA is a single country as well =p

But if a statistically significant number of people were importing from the US like from Japan, that would mean more of its share would be from the US, not less.



DonFerrari on 14 October 2021
curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:

they are 100% sold out for Series X, and well S is available in plenty of stores.

And I could turn your argument on you saying USA is a single country as well =p

But if a statistically significant number of people were importing from the US like from Japan, that would mean more of its share would be from the US, not less.

Not from USA, but to USA or UK.

But again the core of my point is with the system sold out in every single country you can't trust the sales distribution to mantain along the gen at all



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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curl-6 on 14 October 2021
DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

But if a statistically significant number of people were importing from the US like from Japan, that would mean more of its share would be from the US, not less.

Not from USA, but to USA or UK.

But again the core of my point is with the system sold out in every single country you can't trust the sales distribution to mantain along the gen at all

I'm not saying it will stay this way, just that at present it's different to its predecessor. We'll get a clearer picture over time if this is a genuine change or just a temporary thing.



DonFerrari on 15 October 2021
curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:

Not from USA, but to USA or UK.

But again the core of my point is with the system sold out in every single country you can't trust the sales distribution to mantain along the gen at all

I'm not saying it will stay this way, just that at present it's different to its predecessor. We'll get a clearer picture over time if this is a genuine change or just a temporary thing.

And I'm saying any analysis of the present is totally worthless. Could the ratio of sales between PS and Xbox be totally different even in the present if there were no stock constrains? Most certainly.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

kirby007 on 15 October 2021

My gut estimate is that 2:1 in favour of the ps5 seems a very likely ratio in the end of this gen. Considering that last gen MS did everything wrong and Sony everything right, that would be the lower spectrum. A PS2 like dominance on the other hand will be unlikely also.



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curl-6 on 15 October 2021
DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

I'm not saying it will stay this way, just that at present it's different to its predecessor. We'll get a clearer picture over time if this is a genuine change or just a temporary thing.

And I'm saying any analysis of the present is totally worthless. Could the ratio of sales between PS and Xbox be totally different even in the present if there were no stock constrains? Most certainly.

I'd disagree on it being "totally worthless", I think MS isn't clueless about how to distribute what stock they have, and the Series S isn't supply constrained, at least not to the extent that the Series X is.



DonFerrari on 15 October 2021
curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:

And I'm saying any analysis of the present is totally worthless. Could the ratio of sales between PS and Xbox be totally different even in the present if there were no stock constrains? Most certainly.

I'd disagree on it being "totally worthless", I think MS isn't clueless about how to distribute what stock they have, and the Series S isn't supply constrained, at least not to the extent that the Series X is.

So would them Sony be clueless?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."