‘Gaza is an election issue,’ Canadian Muslim advocacy group says

The National Council of Canadian Muslims (NCCM) is calling on members of the Muslim community in the country to make an informed choice in the federal election, as advanced polls opened earlier today.

“We encourage you to do your homework and make an informed decision to figure out: who is best for your children? Unfortunately, the stakes couldn’t be higher for them,” the group said in an email.

“If things go poorly, and we don’t get out there in the next week, we are looking at a minimum of close to half a decade where Islamophobia and anti-Palestinian racism could remain major parts of our national debate.”

The group also said Gaza has become an election issue ahead of Election Day on April 28.

Liberal Party leader Mark Carney has said Canada should apply “maximum pressure” to reach an immediate ceasefire while securing the release of captives and resuming humanitarian aid to Gaza.

Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre has said he would cut funding for UNRWA and crack down on pro-Palestine protests in Canada, which he described as “hate marches”. Echoing Trump, he said non-citizens taking part in those protests would be deported under a Conservative government.

I'm really pulling for Carney this time. Pierre Poilievre will be a Trump puppet, plus he's backed by an organization of Elon Musk wannabes that seem to be the same sort of techbro edgelords that make up DOGE.

We really do need to do something to make the vote more fair in a bunch of ways. Western Canada, especially Alberta, with how crucial it is to the Canadian economy, could vote 100% for a single party, and yet it basically means nothing if just Ontario and/or Quebec vote for a different party. That's not the end of the world if each Province is extremely independent, but if that's not the case, and say you've got to fork over billions to other Provinces because the Federal Gov forces you to share nicely, to prop up everyone else's standard of living, that's something that's not going to last without getting something worthy in return. I'm not sure what the best answer would be exactly, but what we have now is not good enough and more people are starting to get on board with changing that.

Carney knows about the economy, but Pierre's not devoid of that by any means. Pierre was part of Harper's Gov and learned a lot from him, and Stephen is an economist, a big part of why Canada was doing so well back then and was basically on par with the USA. Pierre also has a degree in International relations, so dealing with Trump, as well as trade, would be right up his alley. Harper hasn't been campaigning with PP just because they're in the same party, he actually stands behind Pierre. That wasn't the case last election with O'Toole and the 'Harper paradox'.

I personally can't understand why Liberals would want to vote for Carney, based on his resume. For decades and decades, maybe longer, Liberals have been saying that the system is corrupt because the politicians are bought and paid for, by the millionaire/billionaires, banksters, and wall street. Well Carney is a millionaire/billionaire, bankster, who's got ties and stock with Brookfield, a company he moved out of Canada and into the USA. He's literally the definition of 'the bad guys behind the scenes' corrupting politics. Not to mention his WEF membership, along with a bunch of others in the Cabinet. How anyone could vote for the person who's part of an elitist world group, who's well known motto is 'you'll own nothing and you'll be happy' is just beyond me. The only thing that makes any sense to me is that this is exactly what you'd expect in the backwards world of the 'memetrix'. 

Yet we have PP. Someone who's ideas and policies that he's been talking about for a year or more now, are getting copied, one after another by Carney, just like Kamala did with Trump. PP, who certainly seems like one of the few politicians who isn't compromised. Who's all for making Canada as independent as reasonably possible, and it's not like he wants to cut all ties with allies, but simply deal with them where it makes sense for the Country as a whole. I don't see how that's at all unreasonable or not good enough for a guy who's dedicated his life and time solely to this Country.

You make good points, but I can't get past PPs statements about Gaza protests and his ties with tech bros willing to go full DOGE here as well.
https://www.greenpeace.org/canada/en/story/69572/what-poilievre-gets-wrong-about-immigration/
https://ottawacitizen.com/public-service/pierre-poilievre-public-service-cuts-ian-brodie

Yes, Carney is part of an elitist group, but he's the lesser of 2 evils in my eyes, just like Harris was the lesser of 2 evils in the USA.

Is Pollievre a guy dedicated to all of this country, in which 95% of the population are immigrants after all?

Here's my take on what Trumps plan has been:

Trump wants to isolate the USA as much as reasonably possible from any nation that's a threat, in any way. This of course includes China, because of it's growing economy and world influence. Trump, and the rest of America, including Dems, don't want China getting too big and powerful. It's why Biden left most of the tariffs alone or raised them or added more, and why Trumps just taking that even further now again.

For this plan to work, the USA cannot go it alone. Not only that, but they'd like this more isolationist plan to be as local and efficient as possible. This would mean the USA and Canada having an even closer relationship than ever before. (Would also include Mexico and maybe Greenland, as well as the EU to some degree). That wasn't going to happen under Trudeau, and it's not going to happen under Carney either, he's made that clear. This is why Trump wants PP and the Cons in power. A big part of this plan is energy, and the USA would desperately need our oil sands, at least in the long run, but it would not just be to their benefit, but to ours as well. Pipelines from coast to coast means energy security and shipping worldwide.

The reason for the trade war Trumps started with us, was to hopefully lure the Libs into 'taking the bait', and instead of focusing on Canada's needs, (like Trump did during the USA election while Kamala focused on him), they'd instead focus on Trump and make their campaign revolve around him. The reason why this would work, is because after a while, Trump could pull the rug out from under Carney by backing off on the tariffs, being silent. What were the Libs going to do, if Trump seemingly backed off and faded away? Canadian elections are short, so there would be little time for Carney to pivot and try to make his campaign about Canada's needs, especially when that's been PP's main focus this whole time and wasn't ever going to change.

Now yes, this did bring Pierre's polls way down, but personally I think they were also wrong then, showing much too favorably for PP. I don't think his lead was quite that big. Those high polling numbers for PP made it easier for Trudeau to step down. So this plan was supposed to leave PP with enough of a lead to still win a minority, worst case, but to make sure Carney couldn't pull off a win. The question is are the polls now right or wrong with PP slightly behind, because that will prove whether the plan was successful or not. There's no guarantee PP would've gotten a majority anyway, if Carney and the Libs had focused solely on Canada's needs from the get go.

Now as for what it would mean if PP and the Cons win? PP isn't going to bend over and take it from Trump, because that's not what Trump actually wants. The 51st state, Governor stuff is mainly Trump going after Trudeau. Attempting to force the election sooner than later. Trump knows American Manifest Destiny isn't going to happen. Trump see's the potential Canada has, and wants us to take full advantage of that, benefitting both of our nations. PP and Trump will negotiate and make deals, while both being on the same page, wanting to work together as closely as possible so Canada feeds off America and America feeds off Canada (eventually including Mexico, maybe Greenland, and to a lesser extent, the EU). Now by doing this, Canada will to a degree, be operating somewhat like a USA State economically, while still remaining our own Country politically. Both of our nations will get to increase the size of the pie and directly benefit from it while remaining mostly separate of each others politics.

Just to be crystal clear. Trump and the USA don't want to totally ditch China or the EU, etc. They just want to become even more independent. They want to have enough control over what's needed at home, by mining it and making it at home, if possible, while getting the rest elsewhere, so it's not too expensive. This will take years to get sorted, and a decade to really be seeing clear benefits, but from there it will be mostly downhill.

Maybe I'm partially wrong, maybe I'm totally wrong, who knows, but that's how I see it.

I personally don't see this project and it's completion date, later this year, to be a mistake, or that of coincidence.

Personally I'm not for non Canadian protests in Canada. You want to protest about some other Country, go protest there. If that other Country won't let you, then rethink what you have here and what you're doing. You want to protest Canada, then by all means, do so peacefully and change Canadians minds. I'm also not for sticking our nose into what's going on between Israel and Palestine or Ukraine and Russia. Let the EU worry about it if they want to. You can't hate on the USA (or CAN backing them up) for being world police while not covering your payments, but then ask for help every time you're in need of protection. We can't even properly take care of our own military/defence for that matter.

PP won't be going full DOGE because the majority of Canadians would go bonkers. Canada isn't similar enough to the USA to go full DOGE. Getting rid of some things isn't a problem, assuming they're the right things to shut down or shrink, but throwing everything out would be unacceptable. The nickname some give him of Trump Lite would be more so what to expect in this case. DOGE Lite.

Trudeau was also part of that elitist group, and many Canadians finally realized he needed to go, like the rest of us who knew that in the last election. Mind you PP is leaps better than O'Toole was. The WEF isn't there for Canada's benefit. They're there for their benefit. Carney is on video complaining that he was unhappy that Trudeau didn't charge a higher carbon tax that Carney advised. The carbon tax he's been saying is over with, which is bs, because it hasn't been thrown out, only paused. Obviously so he can restart it, and potentially charge more again if he wins. Brookfield, is also big into housing, which would clearly be a conflict of interest for Carney, but he clearly doesn't care since he'll financially benefit directly from it. You should watch Jordan Petersons videos where he speaks with Jim Basillie (RIM BlackBerry) about the upcoming election, and well as Jordan's analysis on Carney's book "values". Neither of them look to be fans of Carney, and Jim's a big Canadian business guy.

Well PP's mom was Irish, and then he was adopted by French Parents. The way he talks about his past it sure seems like he gets it and isn't anti immigrant, just about smarter immigration. Taking too many in while leaving the people already here behind, just flat out doesn't make any sense. You don't continue building a railroad without properly maintaining what's already been built.

The protests are not for another country, they are against Canada's involvement in genocide. The protests are against the universities' ties with a criminal regime that's committing live streamed genocide, backed partially by us. They ask universities to divest from Israel.

Protesting in another country against Canada's involvement makes less sense. Isn't PP all about taking responsibility?

"Pierre Poilievre is a life-long conservative, champion of a free market, and fighter for people taking ownership of and responsibility for their own futures"

That's exactly what these protesters are doing. They don't want their country to support genocide.



But agreed, it's a good thing Trudeau is gone, he finally did something right by stepping down. Now only if Doug Ford was gone as well, oh well. I can't forgive him for all the people he killed during the pandemic (massive screw up with elderly care homes) and trying to sell the green belt to his builder buddies.

Doug then invested 6 billion in elderly care as penance?

Well I'm against being part of it period, so what's going on with it to me just shouldn't be happening as far as I'm concerned. As for PP taking responsibility, he's not the one who got us in this mess since he wasn't in charge, but I'm not really aware of where he stands going forward if he gets into power. I've been assuming he likely wants to limit our involvement, if not back out entirely, based on his "Canada First" approach.

I can't really blame Doug too much for the pandemic. There's no chance the Libs would be in power based on how badly they screwed their party up, allowing Doug to waltz right in. Plus the majority of people in their respective countries screwed up the pandemic badly, so the one's who got it right are rare, and to just assume Canadians should've got it right isn't a sound assumption based on the last decade of our political options and choices. I don't really blame any politician for healthcare anymore either. Every once and a while when there's actually a decent idea, it tends to get shot down because people are too scared of change to a system like that, or they're told the idea will ruin things and they just go along with it out of fear. So all politicians really do anymore is just throw money at what exists, which doesn't fix anything either, but at least it makes it harder to blame them, which works for them and their political career most of the time.

The green belt was never going to last. There's way to many building regulations in Toronto, especially when it comes to height, and it's just getting way too expensive to build there, and unaffordable for citizens. The easy answer is building outwards, which means the greenbelt was a goner sooner or later. The GTA area isn't going to allow growth to stop and move elsewhere. If it's between money or the environment, money will always win eventually, even with the Libs, as they'll just hold out longer, but will eventually give in too.

I can't speak as to those Liberal values, since I don't know where exactly you stand, but from my point of view, many Liberal values have become illiberal today, and it seems to me that Carney holds too many of those values himself. One minute he's for them, the next minute when someone else has a problem with that he's against it. Most of the time that's when he's being pulled back and forth by old school and new progressive Liberal values, and he won't be clear about where he stands, which leads me to believe he isn't siding with the old school Liberals, or that he has no standards period, which is just as bad. This leads me to believe Carney's going to be no different than Trudeau best case, and we can't afford that any longer.

If I was still in Norfolk right now this would be a tougher decision for that County. The local Libs tend to be much better for the County then the Cons, but most people I know or have spoken to there say they're voting Con so we get a change in our Federal Gov. Which as you say sucks because that's a terrible way to have to vote. We shouldn't have to choose to screw ourselves for the good of the entire Country, and we shouldn't have to let the Country suffer to try and make sure we each benefit locally as much as we can based on the circumstances. Personally I don't know if I'm going to vote because I see either Cons or Libs in power Federally as a win, if the polls are correct. Either way it's going to wake people up, one will just be more painful than the other. My family can weather the storm, and can easily move if things keep getting worse, so at this point, after a decade of this, I just hope for everyone else's sake they realize which path will get us out of this mess, even though it's not a perfect answer to all the problems.

Of all the rallies, in all the towns, in all of Canada...

Svenno... WTF?... Please tell me you know this guy! LOL.

Matt Janes, nope doesn't ring a bell.

I found the context anyway

Elbows and/or fingers up. #cdnpoli #Brantford #Elxn45 #ProtestMania pic.twitter.com/jTKswfmgVp

— Caryma Sa'd - Lawyer + Political Satirist (@CarymaRules) April 19, 2025

Janes told CBC News that the idea that has grown out of his gesture — of an older generation putting down a younger one — is not what he intended.

"That's totally false and that's totally wrong … It was really just giving the finger to this cameraman and those protesters that were harassing us — regular people who were in line to see our prime minister speak."


Rowdy elections lol




Vote tomorrow!