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mjk45 on 20 August 2021
victor83fernandes said:
h2ohno said:

Nintendo should never pursue innovation purely for innovation's sake again.

If they had released a 'Wii 2' that kept or slightly upgraded the Wiimote instead of trying to reinvent the wheel again with the gamepad then the system would have sold multiple times what the Wii U did. The original Wii was outselling the Wii U for much of 2013 despite being abandoned and replaced by Nintendo, so it wasn't the Wii brand that was the problem. The Wii U was so unappealing that Nintendo would have been better off just continuing to make Wii games and selling Wiis instead of making the Wii U. They'd have sold more Wiis from 2012-2017 than they did Wii U's in that period if they kept supporting and producing the Wii. I doubt a true Wii 2 would have sold 100 million like the Wii, but I could see it selling anywhere from SNES numbers to 3DS numbers.

Nintendo is in a similar situation now to where it was in the Wii era, and if they try to reinvent the wheel again they will be making the same mistake all over again. The Switch as a concept and brand could be as stable and popular as Playstation is and the Gameboy brand used to be before the DS prematurely killed off the GBA. It could be a line of systems that sells 100 million consoles every generation as long as Nintendo doesn't screw it up. The end of the motion control boom meant that the Wii brand didn't have that kind of potential even if its successors could still have outsold the NES, but the Switch can do it if Nintendo doesn't muck it up like they did with the Wii U. They could lose many tens of millions of console sales by introducing a bad innovation like they did with the gamepad.

That's where you are wrong, the Nintendo didn't innovate with wiiU we wouldn't have the switch, we would be stuck to the same motions for years and years, people would get bored of it. The next console will be probably like the switch with something else, its evolution. 

Personally I'd prefer they put all resources into a powerful home console as I dont play portable anyway.

I personally believe that outside factors like the impact of Mobile on the handheld sector lead to the Switch rather than the Switch being a result of continuing the innovation concerning the Wii U unless you mean innovation that lead to poor sales.

those changes to the mobile market meant that Nintendo were now faced with a declining handheld market along with weak Wii U sales and while they had the resources to ride out another console with Wii U sales numbers, the down turn in both meant that change had to happen, so a unified approach with the added synergies of having one product in terms of both hardware and software development was the way forward hence the hybrid switch.

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mjk45 on 20 August 2021
curl-6 said:

God I hope they don't tie down their next system by focusing on VR, it's such a lame gimmick.

 When will you stop being sour over the 3D in the 3Ds



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mjk45 on 20 August 2021
Captain_Yuri said:

Of course it won't be the Switch 2, it will be the Switch U

Realistically, I am gonna temper my expectations for their next console. Their pattern is almost as set in stone as Microsoft is with Windows. Hopefully the next one breaks it and it's a success, especially with Nvidia making the hardware. But you can never know with Nintendo.

 Nintendo being Nintendo who knows but I feel it will be more around further integrating and refining the two sides of the console, they will still look at adding new features, but only in the framework of the existing concept they won't be reinventing the wheel.

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curl-6 on 20 August 2021
mjk45 said:
curl-6 said:

God I hope they don't tie down their next system by focusing on VR, it's such a lame gimmick.

 When will you stop being sour over the 3D in the 3Ds

3DS was hardly virtual reality. I'm just not a fan of having a screen strapped to my face, to me that's the opposite of immersive and a bit of a sensory nightmare for an autistic like myself.

Making VR a central focus would also mean non-VR gaming would suffer as games would be designed around a method of play I don't like.

If it has to have a new gimmick at least make it something relatively harmless to playing games normally.

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mjk45 on 20 August 2021
curl-6 said:
mjk45 said:

 When will you stop being sour over the 3D in the 3Ds

3DS was hardly virtual reality. I'm just not a fan of having a screen strapped to my face, to me that's the opposite of immersive and a bit of a sensory nightmare for an autistic like myself.

Making VR a central focus would also mean non-VR gaming would suffer as games would be catered to a method of play I don't like.

If it has to have a new gimmick at least make it something relatively harmless to playing games normally.

Just playing with you, but on the serious side once you experience virtual sex you will change your mind princess peach here I come.



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Alex_The_Hedgehog on 20 August 2021
curl-6 said:

God I hope they don't tie down their next system by focusing on VR, it's such a lame gimmick.

VR didn't ruined PS4 games, and there's a good amount of people waiting for PSVR2 on PS5.

While I don't think Virtual Reality will be the main focus of the "Switch 2", I see no danger at making it an optional feature.



curl-6 on 20 August 2021
Alex_The_Hedgehog said:
curl-6 said:

God I hope they don't tie down their next system by focusing on VR, it's such a lame gimmick.

VR didn't ruined PS4 games, and there's a good amount of people waiting for PSVR2 on PS5.

While I don't think Virtual Reality will be the main focus of the "Switch 2", I see no danger at making it an optional feature.

I wouldn't mind it being an optional feature either, I just wouldn't want it to be the primary gimmick the device in centred on, like the Wii U's Gamepad.



Alex_The_Hedgehog on 20 August 2021
curl-6 said:
Alex_The_Hedgehog said:

VR didn't ruined PS4 games, and there's a good amount of people waiting for PSVR2 on PS5.

While I don't think Virtual Reality will be the main focus of the "Switch 2", I see no danger at making it an optional feature.

I wouldn't mind it being an optional feature either, I just wouldn't want it to be the primary gimmick the device in centred on, like the Wii U's Gamepad.

I think we are still a couple of gens until VR becomes the focus of any console.

Also, it doesn't looks like Nintendo is that interested in Virtual Reality. But I suppose a new gamepad for Switch 2 is a possibility, so let's hope they make it right.



Agente42 on 21 August 2021
curl-6 said:

God I hope they don't tie down their next system by focusing on VR, it's such a lame gimmick.

VR is not good for gaming enough. Nintendo 3d, Miyamoto obsession may strikes again, but the Switch concept, one hybrid local coop machine go against VR focus. VR only works for a marginal peripheral, likewise on Sony devices, not a main or mandatory feature. 



Agente42 on 22 August 2021
CaptainExplosion said:
Agente42 said:

VR is not good for gaming enough. Nintendo 3d, Miyamoto obsession may strikes again, but the Switch concept, one hybrid local coop machine go against VR focus. VR only works for a marginal peripheral, likewise on Sony devices, not a main or mandatory feature. 

VR just doesn't work for genres that aren't in first person. The only Nintendo IP I know that could work in VR is Metroid Prime.

I'm actually disappointed that Nintendo hasn't maximized it's use of AR in mainstream gaming. Imagine something along the lines of Mario Kart Live, but for other Nintendo games and genres. There's just something that sounds fun about having Donkey Kong Country playable in my living room, or The Legend of Zelda in my basement. :)

AR is better for Nintendo arcade games until holograms became viable.