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Mandalore76 said:
Somini said:

It's a record, the rest doesn't matter. There is no reason to get defensive or spin this.

Every record or fact can be spun if needed these days, but that is not what is being discussed here.

Not disputing that it's a record, and an impressive one at that.  But, it's disingenuous to intentionally leave out the very specific wording that Sony themselves used, that it is a record amongst PlayStation consoles. 

JRPGfan said:

We do know.

As of June 30th 2021.
(when they collected sales data, and reached this conclusion. Granted even then, perphaps not all of it is upto date from all area's)
The PS5 was over 10m sold through, to consumers.

So its atleast 18-19 days less than what you wrote above.
Though that hardly matters much in the grand scheme of things.

Sony put an * next to the 10m announcement () and then clarified the * stood for:  * As of July 18, 2021 .  So the date I used was directly quoted from SIE.

^ from sony.

More than 10.0 million (as of june 30, 2021)  (when they collected sales data, for the report)



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JRPGfan said:
Mandalore76 said:

Not disputing that it's a record, and an impressive one at that.  But, it's disingenuous to intentionally leave out the very specific wording that Sony themselves used, that it is a record amongst PlayStation consoles. 

JRPGfan said:

We do know.

As of June 30th 2021.
(when they collected sales data, and reached this conclusion. Granted even then, perphaps not all of it is upto date from all area's)
The PS5 was over 10m sold through, to consumers.

So its atleast 18-19 days less than what you wrote above.
Though that hardly matters much in the grand scheme of things.

Sony put an * next to the 10m announcement () and then clarified the * stood for:  * As of July 18, 2021 .  So the date I used was directly quoted from SIE.

^ from sony.

More than 10.0 million (as of june 30, 2021)  (when they collected sales data, for the report)

Alrighty then.  Odd that they didn't use that date in their own press release then.



Mandalore76 said:
JRPGfan said:

^ from sony.

More than 10.0 million (as of june 30, 2021)  (when they collected sales data, for the report)

Alrighty then.  Odd that they didn't use that date in their own press release then.

They didn't because that's sell to retailers not sell through like the other date.



Chicho said:
Mandalore76 said:

Alrighty then.  Odd that they didn't use that date in their own press release then.

They didn't because that's sell to retailers not sell through like the other data.

Like Sony would care. One item sold is one item sold. Given that sell through is 100%, it currently doesn't matter anyways.

I'm still puzzled by those low PS5 numbers for last quarter. A quarterly drop from 3.3 to 2.3m units is drastic. I wonder how they will sell those planned numbers for this fj (it would mean doubling the output), given the Covid situation is rapidly getting worse in China..



JRPGfan said:
Mandalore76 said:

Not disputing that it's a record, and an impressive one at that.  But, it's disingenuous to intentionally leave out the very specific wording that Sony themselves used, that it is a record amongst PlayStation consoles. 

JRPGfan said:

We do know.

As of June 30th 2021.
(when they collected sales data, and reached this conclusion. Granted even then, perphaps not all of it is upto date from all area's)
The PS5 was over 10m sold through, to consumers.

So its atleast 18-19 days less than what you wrote above.
Though that hardly matters much in the grand scheme of things.

Sony put an * next to the 10m announcement () and then clarified the * stood for:  * As of July 18, 2021 .  So the date I used was directly quoted from SIE.

^ from sony.

More than 10.0 million (as of june 30, 2021)  (when they collected sales data, for the report)

Did they really just pretend the Vita didn't exist?



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BraLoD said:
JRPGfan said:

^ from sony.

More than 10.0 million (as of june 30, 2021)  (when they collected sales data, for the report)

Did they really just pretend the Vita didn't exist?

Yes, along with the rest of the world.  :O

j/k



BraLoD said:
JRPGfan said:

^ from sony.

More than 10.0 million (as of june 30, 2021)  (when they collected sales data, for the report)

Did they really just pretend the Vita didn't exist?

The what?



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JRPGfan said:
Mandalore76 said:

I don't see the Wii mentioned anywhere in Zhuge's tweet though.  And the link to the Sony announcement is worded very carefully to state that it is the fastest selling console in Sony history, without mentioning all time console history.

PLAYSTATION®5 SURPASSES 10 MILLION UNITS SOLD, REMAINS THE FASTEST SELLING CONSOLE
IN SONY INTERACTIVE ENTERTAINMENT HISTORY

Since launching in November 2020, PS5™ global sales have outpaced PlayStation®4, SIE’s previous record holder for fastest selling console

PS5 is the fastest-selling console in the company’s history and continues to outpace sales of its predecessor, PlayStation®4 (PS4™).

Wii launch 11/19/06 - 7/28/06 = 252 days to reach 10,169,429 units sold

PS5 launch 11/12/20 - 7/18/2021 = 249 days to reach 10,000,000+ units sold

Very important caveats to note:

I don't know what date the Wii crossed 10m units sold. 

We do know.

As of June 30th 2021.    (and announced july 18th?)
(when they collected sales data, and reached this conclusion. Granted even then, perphaps not all of it is upto date from all area's)
The PS5 was over 10m sold through, to consumers.

So its atleast 18-19 days less than what you wrote above.
Though that hardly matters much in the grand scheme of things.

Agente42 said:

Shipped and forgotten wii crazy. The scalpers don´t have the force have today, the wii crazy make the wii in US have supply constraider for three years.

The shipped is sold to consumers in Wii case, people forget videogame history now?

1) US isnt the entire world.
2) even then, it takes time to ship things around the world, so shipped isn't the same as sold through to consumer. Reguardless of you claiming it is.

"people forget videogame history now?"

Alternate reality facts? were Shipped = sold through, instantly. Where USA = entire world?

Common now.  You need to take Somini advice.

Somini said:

It's a record, the rest doesn't matter. There is no reason to get defensive or spin this.

Every record or fact can be spun if needed these days, but that is not what is being discussed here.


PS5 is the fastest selling console to date, to sell 10m.
And it did so, as sold through to consumers.

Wii crazy is the world. U don´t remember? I try to buy one six months after the launch in Europe and only take one only four months later. The shipped and sold to consumers on Wii first years is the same thing.

And the scalpers exist but it´s less prevalent.

Nobody spín this. We discuss the success metric. Great hardware sales, but combined software sales are not a good metric. 

Last edited by Agente42 - on 05 August 2021

Went to that site and it has: *Sales data on PlayStation®Vita are not disclosed

Truly shameful .



Mandalore76 said:
JRPGfan said:

^ from sony.

More than 10.0 million (as of june 30, 2021)  (when they collected sales data, for the report)

Alrighty then.  Odd that they didn't use that date in their own press release then.

Because for official numbers they use shipment and precise data because of regulations, for marketing PR they use their sold through estimative that can be a little imprecise.

And people please stop confusing being on shortage/sold out as 100% sell through... yes everything shipped is sold whenever available on the store (which also makes the staggered release irrelevant since if they had released in all markets at once they would have less inventory in each because it would be spread out. Also explain why Sony had smaller shipment in some periods, because it was saving some inventory to send to a release in a new market), but still it takes some time between shipping (going out of the manufacturing plant) and arriving to the store to be sold, actually several weeks (reason why VGC considers reasonable at least 1 month of weeklys sales as difference between shipped and sold, and if you go and check official numbers from Sony on the quarterly reviews and VGC sales on the same date you`ll see something like 500-800k difference for PS5). So yes if Wii was at 10M shipped and PS5 at 10M sold through at the same number of days it means PS5 had achieved 10M sold to customers about 15-30 days earlier than Wii because there would need some time for the shipped units to arrive and be sold even if sold 1s after delivery it would have took 2 weeks on the ship. It is not that hard. As everyone said don`t need so defensive, soon enough the Wii curve will be in a position PS5 won`t touch, until well it pass through on the year 5 or so.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."