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I like it. I'll clearly change the start menu back to the left side but other then that it seems great.



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JRPGfan said:
Chrizum said:

That video made me depressed. Do I get complimentary Prozac with my upgrade?

This post was brought to you by a computer running Windows 7, still the best Windows around.

You get mandated internet connection, and a need for a MS account to use windows.

also forced updates are still there (ToS, allowing them to install, remove stuff from your pc)


*edit: Moveing on from windows 7 was hard.... I tried windows 8 and hated it.... windows 8,1 is barely passable.
Windows 10 never really sat well with me, and windows 11 looks worse (why change things this much?). 
 Its windows 7 or 8,1 for me.

Bolded: Needing the MS account is only for the Home version and im pretty sure you only need internet on setting it up.

All other versions dont need an MS account or an internet connection to set up. But if your running windows why wouldnt you have an MS account anyways?.



AbbathTheGrim said:

Windows always knows exactly what you don't want and gives it to you.

I agree and long held the belief that being Windows core feature it should have be expanded upon, but instead Google took the feature and applied it to the Universe.

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Chazore said:

I'll likely just end up gutting most of those "features", and change the shell back to 10's look, as well as changing the taskbar back to it's normal state, not the shitty tablet look.

I get that they are trying to appeal to both desktop/tablet users, but maybe, just maybe the tablet users should fucking stick to their side of the pool, and never, ever swim to the desktop side. Seriously, keep those two separate, like forever.

I agree, it's also well known that tablet users have a habit of pissing in the pool, so rather than moving them back into the shallow end they should be made to go  back to the kiddie pool .



I think it's got some good legitimate improvements. But a regression in some other areas in the name of "design language" over functionality.
I am a power user, not an idiot.

What I would like to see is for system requirements to be lifted even higher. I.E. 128GB SSD, Quad-Core, 8GB of Ram at a minimum... Because even my desktop from 2007 matches that.



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Make sure y'all can run it...

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11?OCID=1_pchc_windows_app_omc_win#question-19



                                                                                                                                                           

zero129 said:
JRPGfan said:

You get mandated internet connection, and a need for a MS account to use windows.

also forced updates are still there (ToS, allowing them to install, remove stuff from your pc)


*edit: Moveing on from windows 7 was hard.... I tried windows 8 and hated it.... windows 8,1 is barely passable.
Windows 10 never really sat well with me, and windows 11 looks worse (why change things this much?). 
 Its windows 7 or 8,1 for me.

Bolded: Needing the MS account is only for the Home version and im pretty sure you only need internet on setting it up.

All other versions dont need an MS account or an internet connection to set up. But if your running windows why wouldnt you have an MS account anyways?.

I never felt comfortable using a personal account with my own personal details like my phone number, accurate location and all the other information that companies want to know about me and have a personal profile stored somewhere. So on my Android phone I use a deserted google account that's not connected in anyway to what I use on my computer at home or my computer at work etc. I know we're supposed to bend over and most companies make it extremely difficult to opt out of these things and I am in the minority and probably no body cares and I am not saying anyone should care. I am personally not comfortable with being logged in all the time at an OS level. 

The thing with MS Windows, it's not a free product like Android is. It never was. I have two computers and paid for my Win 8.1 license and I paid for my Win 10 license. MS is operating under two business models, the google/facebook model, so I am basically the product and they get to make money off what they learn about me (fair enough), however, they also operate like Apple in the sense that they ask for money for the only 2 useful services they offer (Windows and Office). The nerve. 

Cloud gaming becoming much better every month might just push me to switch Apple's computers. I miss how tasteful my iPhone UI interface was compared to Android/Windows. By the looks of it, MS seems to like their approach to UI as much as I do. 



Looks cool. I like it now better than when the beta leaked and looked pretty much like a Linux distro.



Im amazed how many apple fans are in this thread, im also amazed how many of them apple fans are also Sony fans judging by their post history here.
Clearly you guys are never going to like what Windows is doing.
However just to be calling the thing pretty much shit without even getting to try it over a few small problems is madness when apple does the very same thing and add bloat to their OS and you need an Apple account to even use an Iphone id imagine you would need one for a Mac too. Thats whats funny is most of the things people are complain about they have been happy using on their Macs/Iphones for ages now...
Lets wait for the thing to release and see how it performs. If its faster and better performing then Windows 10 well then i dont care about them allowing me to link my phone if i wish or having a skype like thing build into the OS. I'm also on the Pro version so i dont need an MS account but i have one anyways for windows 10.



zero129 said:

Im amazed how many apple fans are in this thread, im also amazed how many of them apple fans are also Sony fans judging by their post history here.
Clearly you guys are never going to like what Windows is doing.
However just to be calling the thing pretty much shit without even getting to try it over a few small problems is madness when apple does the very same thing and add bloat to their OS and you need an Apple account to even use an Iphone id imagine you would need one for a Mac too. Thats whats funny is most of the things people are complain about they have been happy using on their Macs/Iphones for ages now...
Lets wait for the thing to release and see how it performs. If its faster and better performing then Windows 10 well then i dont care about them allowing me to link my phone if i wish or having a skype like thing build into the OS. I'm also on the Pro version so i dont need an MS account but i have one anyways for windows 10.

I don't think anyone here praised Apple here but me lol, and I don't even use Apple products except for an iPad. Maybe engage rather just generalise and assume? 

Yes, I need an account to use anything and everything these days, including my iPad. However, Apple's business model makes me at a lot more at ease with how they handle data and user profiling. I am not going to even pretend their doing it out of the goodness of their heart. It's a BUSINESS model after all, one that I am more comfortable with as a user. 

I also explained, rationally, why MS business model isn't even similar to that of Google, and how Android is FREE. If you think I am irrational, that's fine, but no need to link to console wars lol.