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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware May 23-29 - PS5 and Xbox Series X|S Sales Rise

trunkswd said:

Adjustments. Front page didn't change when I made them. 

As a sidenote, what about the PS5 numbers? Some simple math:

The last financial report showed 3.3M units produced (jump from 4.5M to 7.8M). That is roughly 1M units per month. While Sony talks about increasing production, we can assume that didn't happen yet, so it's still around 1M/month. That gives around 9.8M units per end of May. That's a pretty big gap in the front page numbers...



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Dulfite said:

I wonder if that Switch drop is due to people assuming the Pro will be announced soon?

Japan sales for next week suggest: no. Switch should return to another +400k week – and PS5/Xbox Series should also return to previous numbers.



Japan let the team down a bit in terms of Switch sales, but thankfully today's Famitsu report showed it bounced back this past week, so the next set of numbers should be back close to 400k again.

EDIT: Ninja'd haha

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drkohler said:
trunkswd said:

Adjustments. Front page didn't change when I made them. 

As a sidenote, what about the PS5 numbers? Some simple math:

The last financial report showed 3.3M units produced (jump from 4.5M to 7.8M). That is roughly 1M units per month. While Sony talks about increasing production, we can assume that didn't happen yet, so it's still around 1M/month. That gives around 9.8M units per end of May. That's a pretty big gap in the front page numbers...

9.8 manufactured by the end of may, doesn't equal 9.8 in the hands of consumers. i think we established in the past that a fast selling console having 700k-1m in transit isn't out of the ballpark

quite sure we had this debate on the ps3/xbox360/wii back in the day aswell



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The rise of PS5/Xbox sales is due to better stock in store I guess ?



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CloudxTifa said:

The rise of PS5/Xbox sales is due to better stock in store I guess ?

Probably too early to tell, but if sales in the next weeks will confirm it, it could be the long expected beginning of the end of supply problems for Sony and MS.

Anyhow, first time in months NS domination is not so overwhelming, at least on PS5.



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fluctuation in numbers is also based on stockpiling a certain margin for launching in new regions like china

anyway @trunkswd time to drop last gen?



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kirby007 said:

 i think we established in the past that a fast selling console having 700k-1m in transit isn't out of the ballpark

I'm well aware of that, of course. I'm just watching the numbers and noticed something strange:

January 2: 204k (-50k), 9: 143k (-110k) 16: 132k (-120k) 23: 184k (-60k) 30: 180k (-70k)

so in January roughly 400k less PS5 sold than manufactured

February 6: 185k (-60k) 13: 220k (-30k) 20: 227k (-20k) 27: 230k (-20k)

so in February roughly 130k less PS5 sold than manufactured

March 6: 257k (0) 13: 279k (+30k) 20: 296k (+50k) 27:: 328k (+70k)

so in March roughly 150k more PS5 sold than manufactured

April 3: 257k (0) 10: 149k (-100k) 17: 156k (-100k) 24: 156k (-100k)

so in April roughly 300k less PS5 sold than manufactured

May 1: 168k (-80k) 8: 178k (-70k) 15: 232k (-20k, China launch) 22: 194k (-60k) 29: 257k (0)

so in May roughly 230k less PS5 sold than manufactured

It is clear that Sony does some flying in of April stock for the good fy end numbers (March 31), but the estimated numbers are consistently way below manufacturing numbers. My guess is Sony does more flying in stock than in previous generations and stock on ships could be as low as 500k.

We'll probably find out more in the next fy report.



Dulfite said:

I wonder if that Switch drop is due to people assuming the Pro will be announced soon?

A real possibility. The Switch Pro rumors are so rampant that I would imagine a lot of people who are considering buying a Switch would rather wait a bit longer. There's a good chance the regular Switch could see a $50-$100 price cut before or during the "Pro" launch. Even if the Switch prices remains the same, there are probably plenty of people who would find more value in a $400 Switch Pro than a Switch at $300.

This year continues to be a struggle for the PS5 and Xbox Series S/X. Shortages should last until at least early 2022, if not almost all of that upcoming year.



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drkohler said:
kirby007 said:

 i think we established in the past that a fast selling console having 700k-1m in transit isn't out of the ballpark

I'm well aware of that, of course. I'm just watching the numbers and noticed something strange:

January 2: 204k (-50k), 9: 143k (-110k) 16: 132k (-120k) 23: 184k (-60k) 30: 180k (-70k)

so in January roughly 400k less PS5 sold than manufactured

February 6: 185k (-60k) 13: 220k (-30k) 20: 227k (-20k) 27: 230k (-20k)

so in February roughly 130k less PS5 sold than manufactured

March 6: 257k (0) 13: 279k (+30k) 20: 296k (+50k) 27:: 328k (+70k)

so in March roughly 150k more PS5 sold than manufactured

April 3: 257k (0) 10: 149k (-100k) 17: 156k (-100k) 24: 156k (-100k)

so in April roughly 300k less PS5 sold than manufactured

May 1: 168k (-80k) 8: 178k (-70k) 15: 232k (-20k, China launch) 22: 194k (-60k) 29: 257k (0)

so in May roughly 230k less PS5 sold than manufactured

It is clear that Sony does some flying in of April stock for the good fy end numbers (March 31), but the estimated numbers are consistently way below manufacturing numbers. My guess is Sony does more flying in stock than in previous generations and stock on ships could be as low as 500k.

We'll probably find out more in the next fy report.

my guess? +-275k isn't what they can manufacture weekly due to whatever reason
even IF thats the average production based on numbers provided.

Option B it's undertracked or even a combination of both



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