I wish this site wasn't so strict because I'd love to talk shit about Sony fans as much as possible. It's so easy to trigger you some of you.

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Farewell little soldier, your fight was great

This isn’t happening, the PS brand is too strong worldwide. MS would have to obliterate Sony in the US and that won’t happen.

XBox isn't focused on selling consoles, so I see it as highly unlikely that they'll overtake their dominant competitor that is focused on selling consoles. I do expect the margin will be smaller this time around, but it will probably still be big.

Cool.. and whats the exact point? I am surprised you and many others still fail to see the issue with the comparisons.

Its as poor as making a thread comparing Steam Physical sales to Console Physical sales and saying Consoles win.

My entire point is that the comparisons don't make sense anymore. 

Common sense but.. apparently we need a winner and a loser.

The cornerstone of good comedy is punching up.

I think a lot of people are forgetting what monumental change has to happen in order to get one console to make serious headway vs the market leader. Most people don't switch brands of consoles on a whim. If you buy the same brand of console as you did last gen you get to keep your Trophylist/Gamerscore. You get to sell your old system and play your older games on your new system. You get to keep your same online friends. Usually what gets people to switch consoles is a combination of monumental screw ups on one company's part, and amazing headway on another company's part. Several examples from history...

The console industry had to crash in order for Nintendo to get a foot in the door with the NES. Nintendo had the insanely brave strategy of promising to buy back any unsold stock from store owners.

Sega Megadrive/Genesis had to launch 2 years prior to SNES, go hard on marketing, and get a Sonic pack-in. They still sold about 20 million less than SNES.

Sega and Nintendo both massively screwed up during the 32 bit era. Nintendo 64 was mostly a system for 1st party software. Saturn was designed for 2D games, and confusing to develop for. Sony on the other hand played the perfect combo of price + catering to 3rd party devs.

Sony had their $599 debacle early in the 7th gen, while 360 got a ton of great early games. 360 launched a year early. Lots of formerly PS exclusive 3rd party games became multiplatform titles that gen as well. Despite all this Sony still won the generation.

I'm not even going to detail how XB1 messed up since most here already know the story.

Finally, I think people are overestimating how much of an effect Gamepass is going to have on console sales. Gamepass isn't that much better than PSN. Opencritic has a nice tracking system that keeps tabs on every Gamepass and PSN game. Unless their data is wrong or outdated I don't see how Gamepass is going to make that much of a difference in console sales. 

Edit: For clarity, this mostly just tracks gen 8 and 9 games. Gen 7 games aren't scored on Opencritic. Still a useful tool for putting Gamepass and PSN into perspective though.

So ps now has 3x the games. 

The big question is how many are downloadable. Cuz that's the main issue as a lot of players dont want cloud gaming.