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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware Apr 11-17 - Adjustments - Switch Sells 461K, PS5 Sells 217K, XS Sells 98K

CloudxTifa said:
Fight-the-Streets said:

I just wanted it to mention because I can guarantee that if it would be the other way around, if Sony would dominate Nintendo (like in the past), nobody would have a problem to compare whatever product of Sony to whatever product of Nintendo. Nintendo is just always measured with different criteria. I can't stand it.

Personally, I compare home consoles with home consoles and handhelds with handhelds. However, of course, if there's a close race between a handheld and a home console, like we had with the DS and the PS2, it becomes interesting to compare the two as well. The Switch is neither a home console nor a handheld, it's a hybrid, the first of its kind. We have two options for comparisons: 1. Compare it to nothing (as there isn't any other hybrid) or 2. Compare it to PS4 and Xbox One (some want to compare it to PS5 and Xbox Series X/S but whatever...). Obviously, the 2nd choice is much more interesting;)

But if I'm not wrong last generation was PS4 / Wii U / Xbox One ?

So this gen is Switch / PS5 / Xbox Serie X|S no ?

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PS4 / Game Boy will be ultra close at Lifetime sales. It will be funny when the numbers will be almost the same .

Gens are an archaic classification in regards to the multi brand console market, it just doesn't work, one console may be competing with multiple iterations of the same brand, little is in sync as it once was    



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Rab said:
CloudxTifa said:

But if I'm not wrong last generation was PS4 / Wii U / Xbox One ?

So this gen is Switch / PS5 / Xbox Serie X|S no ?

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PS4 / Game Boy will be ultra close at Lifetime sales. It will be funny when the numbers will be almost the same .

Gens are an archaic classification in regards to the multi brand console market, it just doesn't work, one console may be competing with multiple iterations of the same brand, little is in sync as it once was    

I see.



curl-6 said:

I still think PS4 will outsell Gameboy.
I'm expecting Sony to discontinue it sometime in 2023 or potentially even 2024, (PS3 got 11 years of production) so it will keep trickling for some time to come, maybe even pass 120 million.

Yeah but 1 million shipped in 3 months just after the release of the PS5 ? That's waaay to low, I don't know if they'll keep shipping 1 million until Q3 until the end of PS5 shortages



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Rab said:
CloudxTifa said:

But if I'm not wrong last generation was PS4 / Wii U / Xbox One ?

So this gen is Switch / PS5 / Xbox Serie X|S no ?

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PS4 / Game Boy will be ultra close at Lifetime sales. It will be funny when the numbers will be almost the same .

Gens are an archaic classification in regards to the multi brand console market, it just doesn't work, one console may be competing with multiple iterations of the same brand, little is in sync as it once was    

Exactly! Obviously, the Wii U coming out one year before PS4 and Xbox One was compared to them as they are all the same generation. The Wii U had an abnormal life span for a Nintendo home home console, only 4 1/4 years until the Switch came out in March 2017. Nintendo was forced to come out with a successor early as the Wii U was a BIG failure. Interestingly, the Switch came out roughly right in the middle of the life span of the PS4 and Xbox One before their successors came out in Nov. 2020. In other words, when the Switch came out, PS4 and Xbox One where full of life and strength. Naturally then, the Switch is compared to PS4 and Xbox One. The Switch is an anomaly in regards to generations: Although, a successor to both, the Wii U and 3ds, both regarded as 8. generation consoles, the Switch isn't really a 9. generation console, more like a 8.5 generation. Anyway, I don't mind if it is also compared to PS5 and Xbox Series X/S. They both won't beat it anyway.



Yes I think PS5 won't reach Switch numbers lol. That been said I expect PS5 to do PS4 numbers. Seems right.



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Wman1996 said:

Stock issues once again cause the Switch to stomp the new consoles (among other factors). The 3DS finally reaches under 1,000 units sold globally. Remaining 3DS stock should be sold out by summer or early fall. Xbox continues to be a nonfactor in Japan, and I don't think that can change. PlayStation seems to be becoming more irrelevant to Japan from the PS3 to the present.

PS5 is actually doing better than what PS4 was doing in Japan in the same timespan. While their totals up to week 24 are virtually the same (658,550 vs 658,735), PS5's weekly sales are much healthier (around 20-25k) compared to what PS4 was doing back then (5.5-7.5k).



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TruckOSaurus said:
Wman1996 said:

Stock issues once again cause the Switch to stomp the new consoles (among other factors). The 3DS finally reaches under 1,000 units sold globally. Remaining 3DS stock should be sold out by summer or early fall. Xbox continues to be a nonfactor in Japan, and I don't think that can change. PlayStation seems to be becoming more irrelevant to Japan from the PS3 to the present.

PS5 is actually doing better than what PS4 was doing in Japan in the same timespan. While their totals up to week 24 are virtually the same (658,550 vs 658,735), PS5's weekly sales are much healthier (around 20-25k) compared to what PS4 was doing back then (5.5-7.5k).

Ps5 software was healthy too?



Agente42 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

PS5 is actually doing better than what PS4 was doing in Japan in the same timespan. While their totals up to week 24 are virtually the same (658,550 vs 658,735), PS5's weekly sales are much healthier (around 20-25k) compared to what PS4 was doing back then (5.5-7.5k).

Ps5 software was healthy too?

No, not for physical sales at least. Sony's latest earnings report does hint at a very high digital ratio but on the Famitsu charts PS5 titles are few and far between.



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TruckOSaurus said:
Agente42 said:

Ps5 software was healthy too?

No, not for physical sales at least. Sony's latest earnings report does hint at a very high digital ratio but on the Famitsu charts PS5 titles are few and far between.

The 80% with count download-only games? If so you have dreadful software sales, in Japan. 

Japan has history of good physical sales, aways, besides digital sales growth. 



TruckOSaurus said:
Wman1996 said:

Stock issues once again cause the Switch to stomp the new consoles (among other factors). The 3DS finally reaches under 1,000 units sold globally. Remaining 3DS stock should be sold out by summer or early fall. Xbox continues to be a nonfactor in Japan, and I don't think that can change. PlayStation seems to be becoming more irrelevant to Japan from the PS3 to the present.

PS5 is actually doing better than what PS4 was doing in Japan in the same timespan. While their totals up to week 24 are virtually the same (658,550 vs 658,735), PS5's weekly sales are much healthier (around 20-25k) compared to what PS4 was doing back then (5.5-7.5k).

Doing slightly better now, but what in a year or 2? The PS4 was more successful than the PS3 in every region except Japan. The PSVita sold 1/4 of the PSP in Japan. The Playstation brand in Japan is heavily declining. I predicted that the PS5 will do 7-7.5 mil lifetime in Japan before it came out and still hold that prediction.