nintendo's games dont drop in value because good games dont lose value

Exhibit B, a ps5 is $800-$1000 via Ebay.  Driven by high demand and low supply.  Market dictates price, always has. 

Look I want to derail this thread, given my point was the ps4 has amazing games for super cheap, but fact is MK8 Deluxe has sold obscene amounts at full price....  so it stays full price.  Demand drives pricing.  On the flip side at one point in time Nintendo was giving away something like 3 games with the Wii U...  because the market dictated the Wii U (and associated software) had little value.   

They should add it to PS Now too. I would consider subscribing to it just to play it. Hopefully someday they take PS Now to the Game Pass level.

All you had to say is that Nintendo prices games the way they do, because people buy them at that price.  Most people buying these games are not posting on forums and what not, so it clearly is only a vocal minority that that thinks their games are overpriced.  As you said, market determines value and year 1 Nintendo games at full price seem to be outselling PS games with their dropped prices (though both do have great sales numbers).

Likewise it is only a vocal minority that blindly forgive Nintendo for their mistakes.  It is the same on both sides, and in no way does it reflect the vast majority of people buying the games (which is what determines market value).  It is also important to note that value in of itself is a subjective matter.  What might be worth 60 dollars to one person might be worth 40 to another.  Everyone is entitled to their personal value to decide how they spend their money, even if the market value does not line up.

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Sony has been killing it with PS Plus lately in terms of value.  Control Ultimate and FFVIIR, though both games I already own, were pretty solid offers.  I am curious to see what they have in store next.

If you had followed the news you would see it done great on total sales.

I base my notion of value FOR GAMES on how much I value that game and experience not how much it is charged a year later or used. So since most games aren't worthy 60 for me (nintendo included) I rarely pay full price, just a handful of games per gen get my day one purchase. One of the reasons why although I have a Switch I have only about 4 games, because they don't go down in price to meet the value I see in them.

And just as expected vgc specialists are still confusing price and value.

He may be referring to the sharp drop in sales, and how it might not be what SE was expecting.  It was reported that the game sold 3.5 million in three days, while only breaking 5 million in Aug (the last reported sales figure four months later).

However this does not account for the holiday, which I could imagine a boost would occur and 5 million is nothing to scoff at to begin with.  It may not have done as well as other games released this year with a similar budget, but I would definitely say it sold pretty well overall.

Them read his post, he is asking if it did not sell well enough and said it got a deal few months after release.

I did read his post.  As I bolded above, he asked if it sold "as well as expected".  This is not implying the game sold bad, rather that SE expected more from a game tied to such a legacy title.  He also stated that the game was on sale a few months back, during the holiday.

So it sounds to me that he is wondering if it is much higher than the 5 mil we saw back in aug despite all that, which would indeed be lower than SE likely projected.  Not selling as well as expected =/= selling bad.

As for why it is on PS+, it should be obvious.  Most people who wanted to buy it already did (be it at full price or on sale).  So in order to promote part 2, they are trying to get part 1 in the hands of as many gamers as possible.

More than 5 million units and getting closer to 10 millions are fantastic numbers to me for an episodic game on one platform.

I understand that some HD remasters at $60 do more than 10 millions, but still.

They are clever with this, ps plus users don’t get the upgrade so whoever likes the game and want a better experience can buy a physical/digital copy of the game.

Well played Sony/SE, well played.