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What does it have to do with autism? Is the singer/dancer autistic?

Looks like one of the million crappy tunes and weak-ass dance routines that pass as music these days...



What a stupid question to even consider asking.




Is this from Sia's film about Autism, Music?

Honestly, as an Autistic, I just find it kind of bland and lame. If the lyrics are supposed to be about Autism, I can't say they particularly resonate with me.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 21 February 2021

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curl-6 said:

Is this from Sia's film about Autism, Music?

Honestly, as an Autistic, I just find it kind of bland and lame. If the lyrics are supposed to be about Autism, I can't say they particularly resonate with me.

Thanks for the response.

Yes, for her new film, created as “performative art” relating to the autistic experience.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 22 February 2021

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One of the first things I learned being a special education teacher (when I was one a couple years ago), one of the first things I learned in college for the degree, is that you NEVER, EVER place disability before the word "people." It is incredibly insulting. They are not autistic people. They are people (just like you and me) that happen to have autism. When you say Autistic person, or Downs Syndrome Person, or Traumatic Brain Injured Person, or ED Person, you are (whether you know it or not) indicating that these people are not the same as other people, that they are segregated from others with what we deem "normal" abilities. I know that their is a lot of ignorance out there, and those doing it ignorantly can't be blamed, but please change the OP title.

As for the video, I don't know the context. If it is someone with autism sharing what their experience is like in musical form, then I applaud their efforts here! If it is someone trying to make fun of people with autism, I have no words...



Dulfite said:

One of the first things I learned being a special education teacher (when I was one a couple years ago), one of the first things I learned in college for the degree, is that you NEVER, EVER place disability before the word "people." It is incredibly insulting. They are not autistic people. They are people (just like you and me) that happen to have autism. When you say Autistic person, or Downs Syndrome Person, or Traumatic Brain Injured Person, or ED Person, you are (whether you know it or not) indicating that these people are not the same as other people, that they are segregated from others with what we deem "normal" abilities. I know that their is a lot of ignorance out there, and those doing it ignorantly can't be blamed, but please change the OP title.

As for the video, I don't know the context. If it is someone with autism sharing what their experience is like in musical form, then I applaud their efforts here! If it is someone trying to make fun of people with autism, I have no words...

A lot of folks I know on the spectrum much prefer to be called an "Autistic person" than a "person with Autism" because they feel it's an intrinsic part of who they are; in fact I'd say this point of view is currently more prevalent within the Autistic community.

It's one of those things where both ways have their supporters and advocates.

Personally, as someone on the spectrum, I don't really care, call me either way, a rose by any other name as they say.

Jumpin said:
curl-6 said:

Is this from Sia's film about Autism, Music?

Honestly, as an Autistic, I just find it kind of bland and lame. If the lyrics are supposed to be about Autism, I can't say they particularly resonate with me.

Thanks for the response.

Yes, for her new film, created as “performative art” relating to the autistic experience.

I kinda wish she had gotten an Autistic actor to play the part as from what I've seen the performance of the non-Autistic actor comes across as quite forced and fake, to my eyes anyway.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 22 February 2021

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As a father on a child who’s autistic I appreciate the attempt at expressing the autistic experience through dance, music, and lyrical art. It does capture a piece of the autism spectrum at least in my case.



Honestly, watching that video, someone with that level of autism they are trying to depict in the video I double any of them would have an opinion towards it.

They may like the song or hate the song just like any other person, but I doubt they be able to comprehend it's meaning.

In fact I doubt anyone with that level of autism would be on this forum to answer your question, so I think Curl-6 is probably the only one who will be able to give you the best opinion on the matter rom his own personal perspective and with the people he has mentored.



 

 

Dulfite said:

One of the first things I learned being a special education teacher (when I was one a couple years ago), one of the first things I learned in college for the degree, is that you NEVER, EVER place disability before the word "people." It is incredibly insulting. They are not autistic people. They are people (just like you and me) that happen to have autism. When you say Autistic person, or Downs Syndrome Person, or Traumatic Brain Injured Person, or ED Person, you are (whether you know it or not) indicating that these people are not the same as other people, that they are segregated from others with what we deem "normal" abilities. I know that their is a lot of ignorance out there, and those doing it ignorantly can't be blamed, but please change the OP title.

As for the video, I don't know the context. If it is someone with autism sharing what their experience is like in musical form, then I applaud their efforts here! If it is someone trying to make fun of people with autism, I have no words...

As an autistic person I don't see it as insulting. I am by definition not the same as other people since I have a disorder that makes me different from people who don't have it so it seems fine to me to categorize in that way. The whole don't put the disability before the person thing just seems like an overly PC gesture and I find gestures like that insulting personally.