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Ka-pi96 said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Firstly, Metallox is a liar. If you'd ever tried pizza with pineapple you'd probably adore pizza.

Secondly, burgers are better with pineapple too, so you should buy a pineapple either way!


Hitler used to put pineapple on his pizza and look at what happened to him in the afterlife!   

Considering Hawaiian Pizza wasn't a thing until 1957, he's probably a better example of what life without pineapple pizza results in.

Defecated invented by a Greek born Canadian pizza chef that wanted to be remembered forever as the fourth most evil chef ever after Cracco, Ramsay and Bastianich, but he actually stole the recipe from Hitler's cook before strangling him to bury his dirty secret! 



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For me, the biggest issue is pricing on software and peripherals, it's crazy to charge full price after years on the market for games. When the Wii released, the cost of a single controller was almost half that of the console itself.



Meanwhile, collectors online are paying $100 for Gamecube games and thousands for Neo Geo games from the 90s.



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Mummelmann said:

For me, the biggest issue is pricing on software and peripherals, it's crazy to charge full price after years on the market for games. When the Wii released, the cost of a single controller was almost half that of the console itself.

I agree with most of that, but what do you mean by the Wii pricing? The Wii was $250. A Wii Remote was $40, a nunchuck was $20. $60 is a lot less than $250, or even $200.

Are you talking about production costs? I don't know about the Wii, but I know the Wii U GamePad was a huge part of that console's cost (about half, at least later on).



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 125 million (was 73, then 96, then 113 million)

PS5: 105 million Xbox Series S/X: 60 million

PS4: 122 mil (was 100 then 130 million) Xbox One: 50 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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Wman1996 said:
Mummelmann said:

For me, the biggest issue is pricing on software and peripherals, it's crazy to charge full price after years on the market for games. When the Wii released, the cost of a single controller was almost half that of the console itself.

I agree with most of that, but what do you mean by the Wii pricing? The Wii was $250. A Wii Remote was $40, a nunchuck was $20. $60 is a lot less than $250, or even $200.

Are you talking about production costs? I don't know about the Wii, but I know the Wii U GamePad was a huge part of that console's cost (about half, at least later on).

A Wii was about 2500NOK when it released at home, a Wii-mote  + Nunchuck was around 1100NOK. Regional pricing, another staple of Nintendo's less successful policies, from a consumer standpoint anyway. As for the games part I mentioned, I remember when Super Mario Galaxy 2 released, the first one was still full price in retail stores (and mostly online as well). This is why my library of Switch games is so small, it's just too expensive.

Also; the Switch Pro Controller cost me around 900SEK when I got my Switch, about 50% more than an Xbox One controller or DS4 controller. In all fairness though, the Pro Controller is much better than both in my opinion.



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Mummelmann said:

A Wii was about 2500NOK when it released at home, a Wii-mote  + Nunchuck was around 1100NOK. Regional pricing, another staple of Nintendo's less successful policies, from a consumer standpoint anyway. As for the games part I mentioned, I remember when Super Mario Galaxy 2 released, the first one was still full price in retail stores (and mostly online as well). This is why my library of Switch games is so small, it's just too expensive.

Also; the Switch Pro Controller cost me around 900SEK when I got my Switch, about 50% more than an Xbox One controller or DS4 controller. In all fairness though, the Pro Controller is much better than both in my opinion.

This is true. I think Scandinavia having higher taxes make their games and peripherals more expensive, it's same in LA (joycons are around 550 BRL ~105USD here, a PS4 Dualshock is less than half of that). Microsoft and Sony choose to lower their profit margins so they can get more market share, but Nintendo doesn't like small profit margins



Ka-pi96 said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Firstly, Metallox is a liar. If you'd ever tried pizza with pineapple you'd probably adore pizza.

Secondly, burgers are better with pineapple too, so you should buy a pineapple either way!


Hitler used to put pineapple on his pizza and look at what happened to him in the afterlife!   

Considering Hawaiian Pizza wasn't a thing until 1957, he's probably a better example of what life without pineapple pizza results in.

 Stop spoiling our (and in my case hypocritical) use of the Hawaiian Pizza meme by spouting factual information.

  LATE ADDITION:  Your behaviour forces me to spend time making up researching facts like this, its well known among conspiracy theorist and other credible        experts that Hitler faked his death and opened a Pizza Shop in 1957, fortunately he was found but escaped justice by choking on a piece of pineapple.

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Ka-pi96 said:
Vodacixi said:

Don't worry, I'm good. I'm more of a burger kind of guy ^^

Firstly, Metallox is a liar. If you'd ever tried pizza with pineapple you'd probably adore pizza.

Secondly, burgers are better with pineapple too, so you should buy a pineapple either way!

Meat with pineapple is a reasonable culinary mix to me, I have tried it and it tastes good. But tomato sauce with pineapple? Man, that's a big no. 



It is greedy to price a 10 y/old game for 60$. But tbh I'd much rather have a quality and unique game over a game filled with microtransactions and cancerous pay to win systems, or a game that isn't very unique or creative. People calling Nintendo just like Activision, EA, Ubisoft, or Bethesda is a complete exaggeration. While I don't necessarily condone the 60$ price tag for ports, you have to realize that Nintendo games are one of a kind in quality and very unique compared to anything else in the market so people would be willing to spend that much. It is easy to find a quality shooter these days or a story based western RPG, but to find a game similar to Zelda or Mario at the same quality is very difficult to find. Nintendo offers their games at a premium price since they're considered a premium and unique experience you can't find anything else, if you don't think its worth it, don't buy it.

However, this isn't likely ever going to change until people lose interest in Nintendo games. When a bare bones and controversial game like Super Mario Party is able to sell 14M at 60$, that shows the power of Nintendo games.



spot-on thread title

when they fail they get super productive to save their reputation, and when they are back in the safe zone - like now - they do whatever shit will maximize their gains, regardless of whether it hurts their image or not



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^