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Alright, the tables seem to be in order.

Thank you all once again for coming on board this ship for another cruise!

And now, we wait.



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Comparing 2014 360 and PS3 to 2021 PS4 and Xbox One is a great idea and will make this thread even better than the last one. 

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javi741 said:

Predictions for a consoles, shipment and sell through

NSW: 23M sold, 25M Shipped: ~103 Million Shipped by end of 2021

PS5: 15M Sold, 16M Shipped: ~20 Million Shipped by end of 2021

Xbox SX: 9M Sold, 10M Shipped: ~13 Million Shipped by end of 2021

PS4: 4M Sold, 5M Shipped: ~121 Million Shipped by end of 2021

Xbox One: 1M Sold, 1.5M Shipped: ~50Million Shipped by end of 2021

For consoles at the end of their life I doubt the shipped figures will be that much higher than sold, at this point in their life shipped vs sold would normally be fairly steady, admitedly we are not in normal times (PS4 & XB1 did have supply issues due to lockdown demands) but Sony shipping 1m more PS4 than demand seems excessive.

Otherwise I concur with NSW, PS5 & XBS/X figures.



Can't wait to see how the comparisons play out over the course of the year. I think it's pretty obvious that the Switch will sell less in 2021 than in 2020, but I think 2021 will be the second best year for Switch and I think it will still sell over 20 million. A comparison to 2019 might have been more interesting, but this is still cool. Curious to see how the PS & Xbox comparisons play out as well.



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Week 1 Breakdown:

'21 PS4: Down in all regions
'21 XOne: Down in all regions
'21 PS5 - Up in Japan; Down in the United States, Europe, and Rest of the World; Down overall
'21 XSXS - Up in Japan; Down in the United States, Europe, and Rest of the World; Down overall.
'21 NSW - Up in the United States, Europe, and Rest of the World; Down in Japan; Down overall.

And here we go!!
Week 1 of the 2021 Hardware Comparison is officially in the books, and with this new format we can actually see how all the PlayStation and Xbox consoles are doing in comparison to the previous gen counterparts AND..... We're off to a bad start...

The '21 PS4/XOne got smacked by the '14 PS3/360. Now, there's a chance it could be just limited stock and that they'll constantly sell around these levels for most of the year, while the PS3 and 360 gradually decline as we progress. But I wouldn't bet money on that happening. If the traditional post holiday, post successor launch trends continue to hold, then this is going to be a very long year for the PS4 and Xbox One.

And their next gen counterparts aren't fairing much better. Even with severe shortages and stock issues, the '21 PS5/XSXS failed to match the '14 PS4/XOne numbers in Week 1. Keep in mind that in 2014, while the Xbox One didn't experience any notable stock issues that I can recall, the PS4 most certainly did. And it took months for Sony to catch up with demand, and with Covid this time around, it's going to take even longer for both Sony and Microsoft to catch up. But the fact that even with the shortages, shipments for the PS5 and XSXS are lower than they were for the PS4 and Xbox One, tells me that Sony and Microsoft were expecting both systems to perform worse post-launch than the PS4 and Xbox One did post launch. That doesn't exactly exude confidence if you ask me.

Now we have the Nintendo Switch, the only traditional Year over Year comparison on this thread. In Week 1, 2021 starts it just a little bit behind 2020 worldwide. The reason for this is because Japan is notably down compared to last year, while the US, Europe, and Rest of the World were slightly up. But the big disadvantage in Japan was too big for the other regions to overcome, hence why it was slightly down overall. That shouldn't be an issue for Week 2 with Famitsu reporting a slight increase in Japan this week, whereas last year it dropped considerably. So next week should be an overall win for the Switch in Week 2.



please find a way to somehow hide or move those tables for every individual region ...
most of the people only want to compare the worldwide numbers, and so they have to scroll like mad to reach the next console in line ..
it's very frustrating ...



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PAOerfulone said:

Week 1 Breakdown:

'21 PS4: Down in all regions
'21 XOne: Down in all regions
'21 PS5 - Up in Japan; Down in the United States, Europe, and Rest of the World; Down overall
'21 XSXS - Up in Japan; Down in the United States, Europe, and Rest of the World; Down overall.
'21 NSW - Up in the United States, Europe, and Rest of the World; Down in Japan; Down overall.

And here we go!!
Week 1 of the 2021 Hardware Comparison is officially in the books, and with this new format we can actually see how all the PlayStation and Xbox consoles are doing in comparison to the previous gen counterparts AND..... We're off to a bad start...

The '21 PS4/XOne got smacked by the '14 PS3/360. Now, there's a chance it could be just limited stock and that they'll constantly sell around these levels for most of the year, while the PS3 and 360 gradually decline as we progress. But I wouldn't bet money on that happening. If the traditional post holiday, post successor launch trends continue to hold, then this is going to be a very long year for the PS4 and Xbox One.

And their next gen counterparts aren't fairing much better. Even with severe shortages and stock issues, the '21 PS5/XSXS failed to match the '14 PS4/XOne numbers in Week 1. Keep in mind that in 2014, while the Xbox One didn't experience any notable stock issues that I can recall, the PS4 most certainly did. And it took months for Sony to catch up with demand, and with Covid this time around, it's going to take even longer for both Sony and Microsoft to catch up. But the fact that even with the shortages, shipments for the PS5 and XSXS are lower than they were for the PS4 and Xbox One, tells me that Sony and Microsoft were expecting both systems to perform worse post-launch than the PS4 and Xbox One did post launch. That doesn't exactly exude confidence if you ask me.

Now we have the Nintendo Switch, the only traditional Year over Year comparison on this thread. In Week 1, 2021 starts it just a little bit behind 2020 worldwide. The reason for this is because Japan is notably down compared to last year, while the US, Europe, and Rest of the World were slightly up. But the big disadvantage in Japan was too big for the other regions to overcome, hence why it was slightly down overall. That shouldn't be an issue for Week 2 with Famitsu reporting a slight increase in Japan this week, whereas last year it dropped considerably. So next week should be an overall win for the Switch in Week 2.

I think the Japanese number for switch 2020 might be wrong. The switch has been up every week this year in japan so far, according to the famitsu threads.



pikashoe said:
PAOerfulone said:

Week 1 Breakdown:

'21 PS4: Down in all regions
'21 XOne: Down in all regions
'21 PS5 - Up in Japan; Down in the United States, Europe, and Rest of the World; Down overall
'21 XSXS - Up in Japan; Down in the United States, Europe, and Rest of the World; Down overall.
'21 NSW - Up in the United States, Europe, and Rest of the World; Down in Japan; Down overall.

And here we go!!
Week 1 of the 2021 Hardware Comparison is officially in the books, and with this new format we can actually see how all the PlayStation and Xbox consoles are doing in comparison to the previous gen counterparts AND..... We're off to a bad start...

The '21 PS4/XOne got smacked by the '14 PS3/360. Now, there's a chance it could be just limited stock and that they'll constantly sell around these levels for most of the year, while the PS3 and 360 gradually decline as we progress. But I wouldn't bet money on that happening. If the traditional post holiday, post successor launch trends continue to hold, then this is going to be a very long year for the PS4 and Xbox One.

And their next gen counterparts aren't fairing much better. Even with severe shortages and stock issues, the '21 PS5/XSXS failed to match the '14 PS4/XOne numbers in Week 1. Keep in mind that in 2014, while the Xbox One didn't experience any notable stock issues that I can recall, the PS4 most certainly did. And it took months for Sony to catch up with demand, and with Covid this time around, it's going to take even longer for both Sony and Microsoft to catch up. But the fact that even with the shortages, shipments for the PS5 and XSXS are lower than they were for the PS4 and Xbox One, tells me that Sony and Microsoft were expecting both systems to perform worse post-launch than the PS4 and Xbox One did post launch. That doesn't exactly exude confidence if you ask me.

Now we have the Nintendo Switch, the only traditional Year over Year comparison on this thread. In Week 1, 2021 starts it just a little bit behind 2020 worldwide. The reason for this is because Japan is notably down compared to last year, while the US, Europe, and Rest of the World were slightly up. But the big disadvantage in Japan was too big for the other regions to overcome, hence why it was slightly down overall. That shouldn't be an issue for Week 2 with Famitsu reporting a slight increase in Japan this week, whereas last year it dropped considerably. So next week should be an overall win for the Switch in Week 2.

I think the Japanese number for switch 2020 might be wrong. The switch has been up every week this year in japan so far

Different method for reporting 53 weeks vs 52 weeks. Chartz used a 53 week year, but Famitsu used a 52 week year last year. Because of this, New Years is in 2020 for Chartz and in 2021 for Famitsu.