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Predict which range Cyberpunk's meta score will fall in?

98-100 4 4.94%
 
95-97 5 6.17%
 
92-94 28 34.57%
 
89-91 21 25.93%
 
86-88 9 11.11%
 
83-85 5 6.17%
 
80-82 3 3.70%
 
Less than 80 6 7.41%
 
Undecided 0 0%
 
Total:81
green_sky said:

CD Projekt Red has started paying for Cyberpunk refunds out of its own pocket

https://www.destructoid.com/stories/cd-projekt-red-has-started-paying-for-cyberpunk-refunds-out-of-its-own-pocket-613969.phtml

More fighting fellas. X box this, play stat that. Har darr. 

Hardly their own pocket - all the money they are paying out comes from the preorders which covered all the expenses incurred.  So whilst trying to come across as generous and helpful....all they are doing is giving people back the money they tricked them into spending on a substandard product in the first place.



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It seems like, at least for PS4 Pro (and probably 1X), after the last patch, visual sharpness got significantly better.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


Down to 86 with 75 reviews for PC.

Oof, that's rough for a game with that much hype and positive attention before launch. If it weren't for those early "hype reviews" the Metascore would probably be on the mid to high 70s.

Also down to 78 on OpenCritic.

Last edited by Lucca - on 22 December 2020

LudicrousSpeed said:

I feel like a lot of devs could do what Rockstar does if given the budget and workforce. 

The things is Rockstar (almost) never fails, and they had a blockbuster title that they were smart enough to not destroy over time. That allows them to have almost unlimited budget for their games. A "normal" company would never release only one red dead redemption per generation. Only one GTA. A normal company would probably allow journalists/audience to make them change their game to cater for them.

It seems that somehow, although being a public company, they are allowed to do their own thing, at their own pace, which as consequence allowed them to have two huge blockbusters that generates so much money they can take as long as they want to develop and polish.

Image if we had only 1 or 2 assassins creed per generation, with a rockstar budget? Yet ubisoft decided to go on a different path.

Rockstar indeed in on a different league. Its a kind of AAAA tier or S tier.



ishiki said:

It's a bit odd I think because Sony Didn't Delist Fallout 76. or Days Gone.

Not that I am complaining, as Sony can always be stricter and hold games to higher performance standard.

I think, CDPR presented refunds in a way that was technically true as in it was up to Sony's Policy to obtain a refund. But, it was very misleading. Which imo, infers Sony's more strict policy is the reason why you can't get a refund. If I was running Sony I would be pissed at the two statements CDPR made. This also opened up to a lot more discussion and negative press on Sony's refund policy than they probably preferred.

The game on PC I would say is pretty good, but still way to glitchy. IMO PC reviewers initially gave this game too much of a pass on this. I'm OCD so it's probably a lot to due with me. But I find the glitches to be extremely immersion breaking, which is this games biggest strength when it is working well.

The Police System is also Horrid. Which isn't a glitch, and I hope they just change the design with a DLC or something.

If they fix those things it will be a fantastic game to me, but it's not there yet.

I think this is happening because the way BC works in this generation. If they could (of course right now post apocalypse) they could be selling the game only for new generation. Although the game is buggy it runs pretty well on new generation machines, and bugs can be always fixed later, like fallout 76, Days Gone, Mass Effect etc. The problem is that cant sell only new generation versions since the game is actually last generation therefore you cant remove only base consoles verisons from the market, you need to actually delist all versions except pc.



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EnricoPallazzo said:
ishiki said:

It's a bit odd I think because Sony Didn't Delist Fallout 76. or Days Gone.

Not that I am complaining, as Sony can always be stricter and hold games to higher performance standard.

I think, CDPR presented refunds in a way that was technically true as in it was up to Sony's Policy to obtain a refund. But, it was very misleading. Which imo, infers Sony's more strict policy is the reason why you can't get a refund. If I was running Sony I would be pissed at the two statements CDPR made. This also opened up to a lot more discussion and negative press on Sony's refund policy than they probably preferred.

The game on PC I would say is pretty good, but still way to glitchy. IMO PC reviewers initially gave this game too much of a pass on this. I'm OCD so it's probably a lot to due with me. But I find the glitches to be extremely immersion breaking, which is this games biggest strength when it is working well.

The Police System is also Horrid. Which isn't a glitch, and I hope they just change the design with a DLC or something.

If they fix those things it will be a fantastic game to me, but it's not there yet.

I think this is happening because the way BC works in this generation. If they could (of course right now post apocalypse) they could be selling the game only for new generation. Although the game is buggy it runs pretty well on new generation machines, and bugs can be always fixed later, like fallout 76, Days Gone, Mass Effect etc. The problem is that cant sell only new generation versions since the game is actually last generation therefore you cant remove only base consoles verisons from the market, you need to actually delist all versions except pc.

It's more because of the mid-gen refreshes. CDPR was praising the ps4 pro and one X in 2018.

The 2018 demo was running on a 1080ti
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-cyberpunk-2077-e3-demo-specs-revealed

Looks like they were targeting XBox One X, maybe hoping the mid gen refreshes would become a big success?

Anyway they never stated that specifically, always One and PS4
https://www.playstationtrophies.org/news/news-25287-cyberpunk-2077-confirmed-as-current-gen-will-have-more-diverse-romance-options-than-witcher-3.html
""The current console generation is what we're aiming for. We are aiming for Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and of course PC as well."

Too ambitious, feature creep, not enough time.



Time to update thread OP.

Open critic = 78 (PC)
Metacritic score = 86 (PC).
Open critic = 56 (XB1)
Metacritic score = 55 (PS4)





Great review, finally someone that goes in depth into the soundtrack. Love the description of the musicand how it fits into the world. Now I'm more interested to wait for this to be properly fixed.



After playing it more,

There are a lot of issues not related to bugs and glitches of which they are still plentiful as of patch 1.06. (This game has been far buggier and glitchier than Fallout 4, Fallout New Vegas, or Witcher 3 for me) on PC. ON PATCH 1.06. Keep in mind all of those versions were on PC. 

The performance is fine on my 2080 Ti, I get a pretty constant 60 FPS with Raytracing and it looks beautiful!

1) The AI is absmyal. Particularly when you have guest part members.

2) Initially I felt (or maybe hoped) it was advertised as a grand theft auto sized immersive sim. It is a substantial tier below Dishonored, Prey, and Deus Ex in how it handles the immersive sim qualities.

3) It is greater than a substantial tier below in how it handles open world qualities compared to Rockstar Games with AI, cops, driving, not having garages, not having haircuts. Hell, I would say it's significantly below Sleeping Dogs as well.

4) It seems unnecessarily overtly sexual in unmeaningful shallow ways, like every advertisement is some naked ass up thing, with dildo's everywhere. It's entertaining (milfguard :P), but it sort of makes it feel like a parody and less "real" to me instead of a more cohesive a Blade Runner/Ghost in the Shell/Deus Ex/Watchmen style atmosphere... Yet, a lot of the cutscenes like showering makes your character take showers in clothes? It feels sort of contradictory. I am not offended by it as it's often funny, but I feel it makes the game worse.  

With all the negativity said. Some of the characters and quest structures are still tremendous, and this game has probably my favorite set of characters from any game this generation (not counting remakes :P). Some of the powers are really fun, but they sort of get held back by issues with the basic gameplay loop. I would still recommend it, as I am having quite a bit of fun with it. 

However, for me personally it is not even close to what was advertised or the quality of the Witcher 3, GTAV or the Good immersive sims this generation. Even when the bugs/glitches get fixed.

Last edited by ishiki - on 30 December 2020