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There is so much wrong in your post.

So far PS5 isn't facing any more competition than the PS4 did.
Google, Amazon and Apple are irrelevant in the console space and most likely won't be during this gen.
Most console buyers do buy by brand, or at least by the games associated with it. Even if you go by pure value the PS5 is far ahead with their discless version.
Wii U showed nothing that is in any way relevant to the current generation.

Nobody who buys the PS5 will buy it because it has a shiny new controller. They will buy it because it's a Playstation.



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vivster said:

There is so much wrong in your post.

So far PS5 isn't facing any more competition than the PS4 did.
Google, Amazon and Apple are irrelevant in the console space and most likely won't be during this gen.
Most console buyers do buy by brand, or at least by the games associated with it. Even if you go by pure value the PS5 is far ahead with their discless version.
Wii U showed nothing that is in any way relevant to the current generation.

Nobody who buys the PS5 will buy it because it has a shiny new controller. They will buy it because it's a Playstation.

I forgot to repley at the time.. but the above is delusional beyond time.

"So far PS5 isn't facing any more competition than the PS4 did"

Nintendo and Microsoft in top shape (With PS4.. both had negativ PR)

Some of the biggest companys in the world (many times bigger than sony) have startet.. and will burn billions of dollars to get in on the action (no matter how you spin it.. thats not the same as last time)

Cloud gaming is here.. big % of the console market can now play New AAA games without have to buy a console (This we will get attention from some parents and more casual gamers)

"Google, Amazon and Apple are irrelevant in the console space and most likely won't be during this gen"

We know they will invest heavily.. how on earth can you just say they will be "irrelevant"

Also remember that they allready has us in in their ecosystems.

https://www.androidcentral.com/stadia-might-be-best-way-play-cyberpunk-2077-right-now-most-gamers

"Most console buyers do buy by brand, or at least by the games associated with it"

That's what I'm saying :) Do not buy by brand.. The reason I say this is that I often see people act like just becourse its a playstation it will sell.  The reality is that the average video game customer look at "the value in hand" and if they trust that company.

"Wii U showed nothing that is in any way relevant to the current generation"

It showed that the most popular console and games.. dosent automatic translates to succes with next console.

"Nobody who buys the PS5 will buy it because it has a shiny new controller"

The hole point of this tread is to find out.. from people who tried it.. if DUALSENSE is inded the reason why (non playstation drones) will see extra value and therefor choose PS5. But thanks for your input



I have now tried it my self.. and I really like it.. Personally I think that for most people.. dualsense matters more than some frame drops or invisible graphic difference.



Its pretty cool. But at the end of the day it is just a gimmick and I think a lot of developers and player wont care too much about it in the long run. It will not be something that will make consumers change their mind about buying an xbox of ps5.



ironmanDX said:

It's receiving good support at the moment but so did HD rumble when the Switch launched.

It's up to developers, first and third to make sure it isn't a fad. Too early to call, tbh.

Nintendo killed hd rumble and other Switch features with the release of the Switch Lite. Considering 3rd party devs probably knew about the existence of hd rumble earlier than us, its not really surprising they didn't use it. For now people are excited about it in no small part thanks to Astro and Demon Souls. So I wouldn't be surprised its hear to stay. 



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EnricoPallazzo said:

Its pretty cool. But at the end of the day it is just a gimmick and I think a lot of developers and player wont care too much about it in the long run. It will not be something that will make consumers change their mind about buying an xbox of ps5.

You may be right in the long run.. But for now its one of the thing that the other dont have.. and I believe many will find it fresh.. but like you said it all depends on how its going to be used the cumming years.



Delivery on the 5th, damn the pre-orders were way too early.



Not a fad, but not a must have either.

That being said Astro's Playroom is the best PS Exclusive out at the moment imho.



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Not really the Playstation name and games are what Sony is counting on, price is not an issue unlike PS3, looking at the dualsense from an increased console sales perspective not so much, it should make a difference in regard to multiplatform owners decision making when looking at comparable 3rd party games, but that's about it it, this wasn't designed to have a Wii remote impact.



Shinobi-san said:

Not a fad, but not a must have either.

That being said Astro's Playroom is the best PS Exclusive out at the moment imho.

Pretty much. The newly added features are just icing on the cake. Extra stuff can add to the experience, though doesn't make it.

Saying that, if said features are implemented well, it'll be hard to go back. I remember back in the PSX and PS2 era where the Dualshock rumble was so strong and crudely done. And later gets it improved gen over gen. Now we have share button, touchpad alongside improved rumble, built in mics and adaptive triggers.

And while people won't buy a console for a features of a new controller, it might be a factor in the decision making in buying one console over another. Or choosing to buy/play a game on PS5 vs other platforms. But yeah people will be buying consoles for the games, not a controller xP

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