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Should PS5/XSX scalping be illegal?

Yes. It's theft. 32 41.03%
 
No. Muh rites, bruh. 46 58.97%
 
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I can understand illegalizing scalping 1st need products, but video game consoles? I don't think it's that big of a deal, especially when the problem is not the scalpers themselves, but the mass of people who need to buy the consoles day one at any costs and stores that don't put any limit on console per customer.



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It's fun to talk about making stuff illegal, but the thought of people supporting it usually only goes that far. If you want to make stuff illegal you better also provide a plan for proper definition, enforcement and potential shadow markets emerging from it.

What scalpers do is nothing more than reselling. It's a completely legit way of making business, what do you think retailers are? They buy product for cheap and then sell it for more to end consumers. What scalpers do is definitely morally ambiguous, but they aren't the root cause, they're just a symptom. A symptom of consumerism, of hype culture, of exploitation of dwindling resources, of computer technology, of globalization, of capitalism, of human nature, of failed social systems, of failed schools, of failed moral guidance.

If you want to make it illegal then go ahead, but better make sure you do it right or else you'll invite something even worse. Also make sure to fight the root causes at the same time or else you'll never get rid of it.



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Cant believe the amount of people who thinks its theft. Yes its a scumbag move, but really its just supply and demand. If nobody bought from scalpers the problem would be solved. Maybe the companys should only release one or two units per address or something.

If scalping was illegal there would be no way off making money, therefore no PS5s, or anything for that matter. All you would have would be what the government allows you to have. If thats what you want go live in North Korea or somewhere similar.



vivster said:

It's fun to talk about making stuff illegal, but the thought of people supporting it usually only goes that far. If you want to make stuff illegal you better also provide a plan for proper definition, enforcement and potential shadow markets emerging from it.

What scalpers do is nothing more than reselling. It's a completely legit way of making business, what do you think retailers are? They buy product for cheap and then sell it for more to end consumers. What scalpers do is definitely morally ambiguous, but they aren't the root cause, they're just a symptom. A symptom of consumerism, of hype culture, of exploitation of dwindling resources, of computer technology, of globalization, of capitalism, of human nature, of failed social systems, of failed schools, of failed moral guidance.

If you want to make it illegal then go ahead, but better make sure you do it right or else you'll invite something even worse. Also make sure to fight the root causes at the same time or else you'll never get rid of it.

Scalping tickets is illegal and it doesn't rob you of nearly as much money as these console scalpers. And again, why should these scumbags be let off the hook when even retailers can't legally gouge prices like that? 



KManX89 said:
vivster said:

It's fun to talk about making stuff illegal, but the thought of people supporting it usually only goes that far. If you want to make stuff illegal you better also provide a plan for proper definition, enforcement and potential shadow markets emerging from it.

What scalpers do is nothing more than reselling. It's a completely legit way of making business, what do you think retailers are? They buy product for cheap and then sell it for more to end consumers. What scalpers do is definitely morally ambiguous, but they aren't the root cause, they're just a symptom. A symptom of consumerism, of hype culture, of exploitation of dwindling resources, of computer technology, of globalization, of capitalism, of human nature, of failed social systems, of failed schools, of failed moral guidance.

If you want to make it illegal then go ahead, but better make sure you do it right or else you'll invite something even worse. Also make sure to fight the root causes at the same time or else you'll never get rid of it.

Scalping tickets is illegal and it doesn't rob you of nearly as much money as these console scalpers. And again, why should these scumbags be let off the hook when even retailers can't legally gouge prices like that? 

If you go after scalpers like this you are treading the ground of reselling our own used products too.

Should used games be a thing or is it theft,and what about rare antique items?

It's also hard to compare scalping tickets with scalping the PS5 that will be on sale for like 8 years.



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KManX89 said:

Scalping tickets is illegal and it doesn't rob you of nearly as much money as these console scalpers. And again, why should these scumbags be let off the hook when even retailers can't legally gouge prices like that? 

Not sure I can follow along with this analogy. There is a difference between tickets to an event and a consumer product after all. Those tickets for example are finite (there’s a limited number of seats) and a person has only one opportunity to acquire one (there’s only one and unique show or match). A console however is not finite; for all intends and purposes an infinite number will be made and you will be able to get one at literally any time in the future without it being different than if you get it day one.

With that said, yes, scalping is deplorable, and a pretty dishonest thing to do which should be judged by society at least. Most gamers however sadly are sheep, and they’ll take any kind of crap.



The government has no right to tell me what I can't sell/resell items for.



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No scalping in general should not be illegal.
In case of tickets it makes sense, but not with mass manufactured gaming systems.

Tickets, such as baseball tickets, are limited in quantity simply because the capacity of the stadion is limited. They literally cannot give out more than that.
But PlayStation 5 and XB systems will be produced as long as there is demand, so if another person wants one, another system will be manufactured.
This is completly different from tickets.

With tickets, they are simply sold out, more tickets are not possible.
This does not apply to PS5/XBSeries. You only have to wait a little longer, but you will eventually get one.

KManX89 said:

And again, why should these scumbags be let off the hook when even retailers can't legally gouge prices like that? 

They can, but they dont. No company has the right to tell another company for how much they are allowed to sell their products.

They dont because deviating from the suggested price puts them at a disadvantage compared to their competitors.

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Nautilus said:

The government has no right to tell me what I can't sell/resell items for.

They already do that. Ticket scalping is illegal. Retailers can't price gouge either. Next.



vivster said:

It's fun to talk about making stuff illegal, but the thought of people supporting it usually only goes that far. If you want to make stuff illegal you better also provide a plan for proper definition, enforcement and potential shadow markets emerging from it.

What scalpers do is nothing more than reselling. It's a completely legit way of making business, what do you think retailers are? They buy product for cheap and then sell it for more to end consumers. What scalpers do is definitely morally ambiguous, but they aren't the root cause, they're just a symptom. A symptom of consumerism, of hype culture, of exploitation of dwindling resources, of computer technology, of globalization, of capitalism, of human nature, of failed social systems, of failed schools, of failed moral guidance.

If you want to make it illegal then go ahead, but better make sure you do it right or else you'll invite something even worse. Also make sure to fight the root causes at the same time or else you'll never get rid of it.